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Old 05-19-2007, 06:30 AM
cmoke cmoke is offline
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Default What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

I am playing at my normal 5/10 limit game the other day and 10 minutes into the game I am on the button with AKs. I do what I normally do and raise. The big blind is a dealer I know his name but haven't played him before even though he apparently knows me and my image.

He raises me and I immediately reraise. We end up capping it. the flop comes K high rainbow. He checks and I bet.

He flips out and folds face up saying "anything but a king!!" I look down and there are two Aces staring back. I think about it for a second, and turn my hand faceup. "Oh" he says "I thought you flopped a set, the way you played preflop" WTF

This is the latest example from people who actually pay attention (usually against dealers & a few regulars). Luckily, not too many people pay attention. But my question is am I leaving money on the table with this kind of image, or should I stay tight. I can sometimes go an hour between playing hands, sometimes people notice, sometimes not.

Also, what is your image? Is is what you want it to be? Do you actively cultivate it, or do you even worry about it? Thanks for the help guys, I am learning alot from you all.

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Old 05-19-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

lol. there is no such thing as a bad image. you just need to adjust your play to exploit your image.

simply stated. if they think you're tight, bluff more.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:14 AM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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Luckily, not too many people pay attention.

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When more people pay attention, then worry about your image.

In the example you gave, your image won you the pot.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:25 AM
PokrLikeItsProse PokrLikeItsProse is offline
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

I have a very tight image. For example, playing last month in a no fold-em 4/8 limit hold em game with a kill, I caused people to talk about how tight I was by being the only person to fold in a multi-way limped pot when I was the SB (this after raising UTG an orbit or two earlier and having pocket aces in one of my few hands shown down). One reason that I folded was that I had 73o or something equally weak and would have had to post a kill if I won the pot, but people do notice that I fold in the blinds a lot more than everyone else and the chatty players sometimes comment on it. Also, in a limped pot, I once mucked in middle position and accidentally exposed an ace (I had A4o) and the table was shocked that I could fold an ace for one bet.

If someone bets a queen high flush using both hole cards and gets raised on the river, it seems to be an automatic three bet against anyone but me. I also think that a nut flush usually won't be three-bet against my river raise if the board is paired but might against other players. I also suspect that if I limp UTG I get fewer calls behind me than if anyone else limps.

I also have an image as a good hand-reader. One table was convinced that I tossed away a flush against a player who check-raised me on the end after his A3 connected on an ace-high flop and he hit running threes for a full house. I've also shown the ability to successfully value-bet second pair and correctly check behind with two pair, both when the flush card comes on the river at different times in the same game.

Since I generally play in loose-passive limit games, I generally don't have very many bluffing opportunities, although I have shown a penchant for picking out which opponents I can bluff off of a split pot when we are both playing the board, such as when there is a straight showing. Since the table is loose, what I seem to be doing is changing people from betting and calling a raise to checking and calling a bet.
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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Old 05-19-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

if most people aren't paying attention it shouldn't be a problem.

my image is somewhat low key i beleive. i don't talk about poker. i don't talk about poker plays. i don't talk about odds. i don't justify plays. i don't tell bad beats. i don't complain when drawn out on. players should recognise i play a tight agressive style, but i am very untimidating and i continue to get great action.
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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Why would you want to change your image? Your opponents are capping the action pre-flop and then checking and folding the best hand to your bets on the flop. How could it be any better than that?

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It just seems to me that my image is opposite of alot of people here. it's tight to the point of pokrlikeitsprose's image. It is an auto 3bet on alot of hands against alot of players except me, they go into check call mode or fold. A few months ago, I was playing against a regular and I raise utg with KK, he reraises me on the button, so I instareraise and he instamucks AQ. Things like that are starting me wondering if LAG is better

I just kind of wondered to the majority here who have loose aggressive images, if they work on that image, if they prefer that to a tight one, and if people like me and p.l.i.p. could earn a few more bets by giving more action

the example I gave in op worked out that time. But I had to be amazed by that and really start to think about my image after that one and if there was a better way out there for me to earn a little more.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

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I am playing at my normal 5/10 limit game the other day and 10 minutes into the game I am on the button with AKs. I do what I normally do and raise. The big blind is a dealer I know his name but haven't played him before even though he apparently knows me and my image.

He raises me and I immediately reraise. We end up capping it. the flop comes K high rainbow. He checks and I bet.

He flips out and folds face up saying "anything but a king!!" I look down and there are two Aces staring back. I think about it for a second, and turn my hand faceup. "Oh" he says "I thought you flopped a set, the way you played preflop" WTF

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I want to play with this man for the rest of my life, it sounds like a wet dream! Throw around some aggression and he folds... yum!
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: What\'s your table image?...And is mine a problem?

Mason has written about how a tight image is likely the best one for limit hold'em. Your post gives a good example of why he is correct. If you were playing $200-$400, you might want to change your style a bit, but for low and medium stakes games, tight-aggressive will get the money.
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