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Old 06-21-2006, 05:31 PM
DaSpade DaSpade is offline
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Default Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($400)
CO ($241.60)
Hero ($394)
SB ($494.20)
BB ($500.26)
UTG ($412.54)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($22) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $18.

Turn: ($94) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $110</font>
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Old 06-21-2006, 05:43 PM
Woolygimp Woolygimp is offline
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

Meh, I call and then if he checks the river i'm checking behind. If he fires big I'm folding.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:34 AM
jessicafk jessicafk is offline
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

Fold. With a big hand, say AA, CO will not simply limp in a 6-max game with limpers in front of him. Highly unlikely that this player slow played AA, which is the only hand that you can beat here. His starting hand is highly speculative and he likely flopped the joint after getting in cheaply. A set will not check raise the turn after check raising the flop. A set will lead out on the turn hoping you caught a King. You are up against a made hand here of 54 suited, not a set. You have folding equity here, so fold.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

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You have folding equity here, so fold.

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i don't think you're using this term correctly..
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

leaning towards fold
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

so you got check/minraised on the flop... this is usually 33/45 and 76/77/66 are much less likely.. so basically you have to worry about 33/45... Both of those hands will not fold if you fill up, giving you good implied odds...

A checkbehind on the turn will get you to a cheap river where you WILL stack 33/45 when you fill ( gotta shove)...

and not to mention the other fruits of checking behind the turn such as induced bluffs and/or cheap showdown..

It is hard to restrain from going crazy with top 2, but this line might save you more $$ and get you more value...

(just an idea)
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Old 06-22-2006, 08:48 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

This is tough.... arrrrg, I think its a fold, our outs might not be clean.
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Old 06-22-2006, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

Prob fold, but don't think I would. Anyways I'd probably check turn because c/r flop check turn looks fishy
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Old 06-22-2006, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

If this was a raised pot, things would be way easier (so raise preflop). Because everyone limped, and this is a fish's standard line for a monster, you gotta fold the turn. I'd check on turn tho.
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:32 AM
klonpucko klonpucko is offline
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Default Re: Two pair gets check-raised twice - 400NL

folding would be vaginy, call and reevaluate.
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