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Old 08-14-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

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He raises standard pre...it's fine.

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which standards do you mean?

BB is 50 and raise is 100 - so the only one who suggests these kind of raise in very early position is phil gordon.
i don't know any other author who makes these mini-raises, and never heard a 2xBB raise is standard with a medium PP.

could you explain please?
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

He raise 100 to 150 total... BB is 50, 150/50 = 3xBB... seems pretty standard.

This is math I can explain, I'll leave the ICM's to the brainiacs.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

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He raise 100 to 150 total... BB is 50, 150/50 = 3xBB... seems pretty standard.

This is math I can explain, I'll leave the ICM's to the brainiacs.

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ah - ok my fault - i take back everything - preflop standard
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

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The Usual BS: raises 1395 to 1545 and is all-in


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When I saw his name, I laughed because I thought you plugged it in.

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It should. If not he has a leak.

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Why is this a leak?

I was just reading somewhere about not turning good hands into 72. Don't all players (including TAGs) want to get value out of their big pairs, especially AA and KK?

How much do you have to mix up your play in a tourney when we only have a few orbits of hands to go on for reads on our opponents and vice versa?
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

Q: If JJ-QQ calls here, what do they do to an overcard flop in a multiway pot?

A: Lose

KK/AA are less likely to jam here, typically I smooth call if I'm trying to take a big risk for a big pot here. There's no big leak calling KK or AA here, but that doesn't mean they won't jam. JJ, QQ however need to isolate and get the chips in pre-flop here.

As for mixing my play up. I typically play all hands AI or nothing pre if the pot is offering me 20% of my stack. If people should be catching on to that habit, I'll place AA and KK that way too.
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

Well, my thinking here is that this might be a muck, but its hard. Actually if its me in real life playing this actual tournament I snap call and fire up another one, but thats cause I dont respect 5$. As for the situation at hand, do we have any stats on this guy? If this guy is a 10/5 i think this is a fold. If his stats suggest he might be loose enough to pull this stunt with AQs or then I call. If he only does it with jj+,AKo then were only getting 33/66. I really think he would call with nines or worse and try to hit a set. He knows either one of you can bust him, so I dont think this has much chance of being a squeeze with air or anything. Folding TT to a shove is highly exploitable tho, so I sure wouldnt show it if I folded it. As I say tho, if its me, Id pay the 5 bucks to see his hand, and likely be the good side of a coinflip against AKo.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

Obv. if we think that villian's range is only JJ+ then it's a fold.

But if you can add to that 99+,AK then you have the equity to call.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.173% 38.95% 01.22% 31348050 982766.00 { ThTs }
Hand 1: 59.827% 58.61% 01.22% 47164706 982766.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }

In a $5.50, this early, this is an enormous amount of credit to be giving. I'm not saying that folding is wrong but it's pretty close to a call as well.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Steroid Boy Steroid Boy is offline
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

i called got shown QQ and lost the hand thx everyone for the help
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: Tough Decision Early 5.50 with TT

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Obv. if we think that villian's range is only JJ+ then it's a fold.

But if you can add to that 99+,AK then you have the equity to call.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.173% 38.95% 01.22% 31348050 982766.00 { ThTs }
Hand 1: 59.827% 58.61% 01.22% 47164706 982766.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }

In a $5.50, this early, this is an enormous amount of credit to be giving. I'm not saying that folding is wrong but it's pretty close to a call as well.

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Against reads like "solid" My range is going to be tighter rather than looser. Granted the read could be as a result of the hand too.
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