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Old 05-16-2006, 07:21 PM
DaSpade DaSpade is offline
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Default A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

Opponent has typical TAG stats(may be one of you) and has done nothing out of line so far.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $410
UTG+1: $378.40
CO: $434.40
Button: $194
Hero: $414
BB: $314.07

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $14</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $43</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($90, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $75</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($240, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $140</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $296</font>

standard/spew/alternate line??
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:35 PM
Brian462 Brian462 is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

ya man, this is an ultra spew. I don't see why you thought you were folding him here.

He isn't playing KK like this/ nor any other hand that you could push him off, and You certainly aren't ahead.....
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:39 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

If you think that there is a high probablility that he is floating you, and you are making this play for VALUE, then it's okay.

As a bluff, it's total spew.
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:05 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

c/f turn
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:23 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

Dear AxKh:

Here, have a stack.

Love, Hero
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Old 05-17-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

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Dear AxKh:

Here, have a stack.

Love, Hero

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Hahaha.
I totally agree this hand is a horrible spew. I posted this hand so that it would remind me not to make such a stupid move/spew again, hopefully.
Now, lets switch sides. What is the minimum hand we need to call the c/r allin? First time posting a poll, sorry if it sucks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-17-2006, 03:17 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

The problem with your poll is that TAG villain will not play many of these hands like that. In fact, AsKh is about the only one I might play like he did, maybe KhKx. The rest i'm folding preflop (and I assume most other good TAG's will as well).
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:32 AM
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

With some of those hands betting the turn is attrocious in certain spots.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:04 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

Once he puts in half his stack on the turn there is zero chance he is folding.

That is not a bluff, that is a pot-committing bet.
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:09 AM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: A QQ hand against a TAG - 400NL

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Once he puts in half his stack on the turn there is zero chance he is folding.

That is not a bluff, that is a pot-committing bet.

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This is true. OP, if you were planning on taking this to the felt I think your ideal line would be to open push turn since it has tons more FE than this line.
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