Table Talk Ruling Against "Yukon" Brad Booth

[Municipal Hare]

Cardplayer is reporting that Brad Booth got reprimanded for verbally inducing his opponent to call an all-in. From their daily writeup:

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Elimination number two featured some controversy as Brad “Yukon” Booth and Tony Ma shared a heated debate on poker etiquette. Although not in the hand, Ma took exception when Booth promised Keith Tilston he would show him his hand if Tilston folded. The argument continued even after Tilston, who had made the call and lost to Booth's full house, was eliminated. In the end, tournament director Jack McClelland ruled in Ma's favor and Booth apologized.

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In a video interview, Brad paraphrased his table chatter differently: "You have ace-high . . . you're about to make the call of your career." Then Rich Belsky said that McClelland and Ma had a problem with baiting your opponent in a way that "affects the rest of the tournament."

Does anyone have further details on how the hand went down? I know of tournament rules against revealing one's hand before showdown, but this ruling extends well beyond that.

[TomHimself]

idk but seems like brad does this thing alot. he did something similar in a cash game against a 2p2er and like on the river he said something like 'u wanna chop" and got the 2p2er to pay him off or something

[NewUser2006]

Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

[okterrific]

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Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

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i wonder how much of this arguement the WPT will show/discuss when it comes to air?

[pocketjesuits]

I love the argument that you can't do something in a tournament that is otherwise acceptable, because it "affects the outcome of the tournament".

I guess you shouldn't be able to checkraise either. That might affect the course of the tournament for players not otherwise involved in the hand.

[kolotoure]

This is retarded. Maybe Scooty Nguyens hand should have been declared dead when he said call and its over

[Army Eye]

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Psychological warfare is a part of poker, in my opinion. I'd be mad if I were Brad.

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i wonder how much of this arguement the WPT will show/discuss when it comes to air?

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None, it wasn't at the final table

[Greg (FossilMan)]

If the description is accurate, then this is a bad ruling. The only thing you're not allowed to talk about is the strength of your own hand. You're not supposed to say that you have a flush, or that you're bluffing, or the like. I've never heard it was against the rules to discuss your opponent's hand, even when doing so indirectly "exposes" the strength of your own hand.

I'm all for allowing any table-talk at all. We could continue to penalize profanity, and talk intended to incite an opponent into physical confrontation, but we should allow all the rest.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[DrewDevil]

Why is it considered okay to lie about what your hole cards are, but not tell the truth?

[cbloom]

I believe talking about your own hole cards is verboten specifically to prevent collusion.