high stakes absolute players

[mntbikr15]

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Didn't steamroller used to be a big fish/loser in the 10/20 15/30 or 25/50 back in may june july?

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I think I maybe recall playing him at those limits, Ill have to check PT later to know for sure though.

[stuckinpgh]

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Didn't steamroller used to be a big fish/loser in the 10/20 15/30 or 25/50 back in may june july?

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Yes, I played him hu quite a bit a few months back and he was nothing short of the worst player I have ever seen.

Ok, I've also been in the 200/400 games with him lately and honestly I don't have an opinion, mostly because I've beat him for a small amount so far. That being said, he's up in my games, so if he's up and I've won there are some players getting seriously abused in this game. For the record, I will continue to play him if that tells you anymore about my feelings right now.

Anyway, I know it's not much data, but here goes...

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I contacted AP 2 days ago about suspicous play and they said they would look into it. I also contacted them last night when I saw Doubledrag dump 250k or whatever the amount was and the ladie stated that there wasn't a note about me contacting them a few nights back and also that i should just write security an email.

She ended the conversation saying that I can be reasured that AP is 100% safe. Also, that it's impossible to see another players cards because of their incryption system.

[PartyGirlUK]

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Myself and Brad L looked at a chunk of the hands that Brad had played against Graycat last night. There is almost no question in my mind that something is very wrong. I would not play on Absolute, period.

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Could you guys on Rich pls email me a 100 hand continuous sample (or post a link here). I'm really curious too see it. Also, this is starting to get really worrying. A bunch of guys who I know personally and believe wouldnt make this accusions without something verrrrrrry suspicious going on all say they find the behaviour odd as hell. Havent found anyone who has played them who is willing to bet on them as legit.

[PartyGirlUK]

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I havent played these guys, but the only time Ive really suspected foul play was again Mark Seif.....who Stuckinpgh blogged about similar bizarre happenings. Given how much Seif has lost in the past couple of years, it's probably unlikely that anything more than he just went on a 1 in 50,000 run against me, but it was mighty odd.

All1n that hand is odd, do u have your entire session v. him available for us to take a look at??

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Dean,

I dont think Seif was cheating in anyway....you play like he did though and its bound to look like it sometimes. But seriously, has anyone ever tried to figure what he dumped onto that site? In my two yrs or so there I wouldnt be suprised it it was like half a mil.

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I heard from someone who played a live donkament with him that he said he dropped 800k last year. I think the donkament took place in about september too! And they had only had 150/3 for a couple of months at that time! If he hadnt donked off that much it would be real suspicious -- Id appreciate if stuckin could contact me to give me his thoughts but I'd say 5-1 that something suspicious happened. Looks like much shorter odds in this case tho.

[stuckinpgh]

I think I got beat fair and square, at least I hope I did. If I didn't meh probably wasn't the first time someone cheated me in a high limit game. Anyway that is completely separate matter.

Much love for Mark and crew. I've played on AP probably every day this year, no complaints [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[bicyclekick]

I play a ton in those games and really am not sure how I feel about all of this...i'm just not convinced yet. The thing is, if he could see the cards, I really don't think he'd play a lot of the hands pre-flop. It just doesn't make sense to get in there with 84 when a guy has KK even if you can see his cards. I have faith still in the integrity and am gonna keep playing there.

This hand was odd but doesn't necesarily mean anything.

STAGE #748873608: HOLDEM NORMAL $200/$400 - 2007-08-30 15:49:06 (ET)
Table: AGUSTA AVE (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - CBBBBB ($9367 in chips)
Seat 5 - STAYINSCHOOL ($11459 in chips)
Seat 6 - SCHDNFRD ($14775 in chips)
Seat 1 - DONKOFHOLDEM ($6965 in chips)
Seat 2 - SHAUNDEEB ($5700 in chips)
Seat 3 - GRAYCAT ($38484 in chips)
STAYINSCHOOL - Posts small blind $100
SCHDNFRD - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CBBBBB [Js Qc]
DONKOFHOLDEM - Folds
SHAUNDEEB - Folds
GRAYCAT - Raises $400 to $400
CBBBBB - Calls $400
STAYINSCHOOL - Folds
SCHDNFRD - Calls $200
*** FLOP *** [10h 5h Kc]
SCHDNFRD - Checks
GRAYCAT - Bets $200
CBBBBB - Raises $400 to $400
SCHDNFRD - Folds
GRAYCAT - Raises $400 to $600
CBBBBB - Calls $200
*** TURN *** [10h 5h Kc] [Ac]
GRAYCAT - Checks
CBBBBB - Bets $400
GRAYCAT - Folds
CBBBBB - returned ($400) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CBBBBB - Does not show
CBBBBB Collects $2495 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2500) | Rake ($5)
Board [10h 5h Kc Ac]
Seat 1: DONKOFHOLDEM Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: SHAUNDEEB Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: GRAYCAT Folded on the TURN
Seat 4: CBBBBB (dealer) collected Total ($2495) HI$2495) [Does not show]
Seat 5: STAYINSCHOOL (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: SCHDNFRD (big blind) Folded on the FLOP


Also, there's like no way seif is cheating, I've pretty much always kicked the crap out of him.

[mntbikr15]

BK,

IDK, if I had the ability to cheat somehow I certainly want the image that these guys have. Games build in a matter of minutes around them.

Also seems if you could see hole cards you could overcome the PF crap with postflop play.

[veganmav]

This is before he got his hole card cam? August 8th FWIW.

STAGE #726347383: HOLDEM NORMAL $150/$300 - 2007-08-05 02:28:18 (ET)
Table: CHESAPEAKE (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealer
Seat 1 - MAVERI9 ($24042 in chips)
Seat 4 - GRAYCAT ($18510 in chips)
Seat 5 - SCHDNFRD ($7943.06 in chips)
Seat 6 - DONKOFHOLDEM ($8001 in chips)
Seat 7 - CALVINHOBBES ($12498.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - CBBBBB ($6035 in chips)
Seat 9 - EJ_ ($2395 in chips)
GRAYCAT - Posts small blind $100
SCHDNFRD - Posts big blind $150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
DONKOFHOLDEM - Folds
CALVINHOBBES - Raises $300 to $300
CBBBBB - Folds
EJ_ - Folds
MAVERI9 - Folds
GRAYCAT - Calls $200
SCHDNFRD - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [Qd 4d 9d]
GRAYCAT - Checks
SCHDNFRD - Checks
CALVINHOBBES - Bets $150
GRAYCAT - Raises $300 to $300
SCHDNFRD - Folds
CALVINHOBBES - Calls $150
*** TURN *** [Qd 4d 9d] [Qs]
GRAYCAT - Bets $300
CALVINHOBBES - Raises $600 to $600
GRAYCAT - Calls $300
*** RIVER *** [Qd 4d 9d Qs] [4c]
GRAYCAT - Checks
CALVINHOBBES - Checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GRAYCAT - Shows [9s 2s] (Two Pair, queens and nines)
CALVINHOBBES - Shows [8d Ad] (Flush, ace high)
CALVINHOBBES Collects $2695 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($2700) | Rake ($5)
Board [Qd 4d 9d Qs 4c]
Seat 1: MAVERI9 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: GRAYCAT (small blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, queens and nines [9s 2s - B:Qs,B:Qd,P:9s,B:9d,B:4d]
Seat 5: SCHDNFRD (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 6: DONKOFHOLDEM Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: CALVINHOBBES won Total ($2695) HI$2695) with Flush, ace high [8d Ad - P:Ad,B:Qd,B:9d,P:8d,B:4d]
Seat 8: CBBBBB Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: EJ_ Folded on the POCKET CARDS

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I made my first post specifically for the play of doubledrag. There isn't much out there because he only played a week on AP. Does anyone know who DonkofHoldem is? Seems he is a consistent winner on AP but got pwned by Doubledrag in a few sessions and I would like to see some of his hand history as i'm sure others would also.