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niss · #1 11-20-2007, 04:47 PM

WOW CO is seriously retarded.

Lucky Clubs · #2 11-20-2007, 07:13 PM

What line should CO take here after the flop?

prodonkey · #3 11-20-2007, 07:25 PM

he should be folding to the raise

Lucky Clubs · #4 11-20-2007, 07:51 PM

Assuming we can't see Hero's cards, how clear is CO's decision after the flop raise? Maybe it's a silly question, but can somebody show me the numbers so I understand better?

From what I see, CO has invested $26 before Hero raises. Yes, once Hero raises, CO must pay $54 for what is at best only half of a $162 pot ($81). But if he's 65% to win the high on the turn, then that works out to $52.65, slightly less than the $54 that he'd have to invest to win half the pot. If Hero would do the same thing with A234, then CO is nearly 82% to win the high after the flop, which works out to about $66.40 of equity in the high pot.

I guess my question is, at what point is it worth it to defend half the pot, even if you know you are being freerolled? It seems to me that Hero's hand and 2356, 2357 are the worst case scenario for CO.

niss · #5 11-20-2007, 10:22 PM

You can't be serious.

prodonkey · #6 11-20-2007, 10:53 PM

only if you are pot committed is it going to be worth defending your hand, and sure as hell not for 2 1/2 buy ins, getting freerolled is BAD

Shabamabam · #7 11-22-2007, 05:30 PM

Not that interesting.

Just testing really.

$50/$75 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($405.50)
UTG+1 ($4803.50)
MP1 ($2325.00)
MP2 ($2800.00)
MP3 ($2850.00)
CO ($2664.50)
Hero ($2362.00)
SB ($8097.00)
BB ($975.00)

Pre-flop: ($125, 9 players) Hero is BTN 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, Hero raises to $150, SB calls $100, BB calls $75

33.80% (EV = $2.10)

21.60% (EV = -$52.80)

44.60% (EV = $50.70)

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($450, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $75, Hero calls $75, SB raises to $150, BB calls $75, Hero calls $75

28.60% (EV = $107.40)

22.00% (EV = $48.00)

49.40% (EV = $294.60)

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($900, 3 players)
SB bets $150, BB calls $150, Hero raises to $300, SB calls $150, BB calls $150

30.60% (EV = $250.80)

58.30% (EV = $749.40)

11.10% (EV = -$100.20)

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1800, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

0.00% (EV = $0.00)

50.00% (EV = $900.00)

50.00% (EV = $900.00)

Final Pot: $1800
BB shows: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero shows: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB shows: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero wins $898.5 ( won +$298.5 )
SB wins $898.5 ( won +$298.5 )
BB lost -$600.00

Shabamabam · #8 11-22-2007, 07:00 PM

$50/$75 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($5222.50)
UTG+1 ($2106.00)
MP1 ($7657.50)
MP2 ($3469.00)
MP3 ($2706.50)
CO ($1000.00)
BTN ($2032.00)
SB ($2417.50)
Hero ($3617.50)
[CO posted $75]

Pre-flop: ($200, 9 players) Hero is BB 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $75, UTG+1 raises to $150, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $225, 3 folds, Hero calls $150, UTG calls $150, UTG+1 calls $75

24.40% (EV = $25.10)

11.60% (EV = -$106.10)

21.10% (EV = -$8.73)

43.00% (EV = $215.75)

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1025, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $75, UTG+1 calls $75, MP3 calls $75, Hero calls $75

14.50% (EV = $117.12)

17.40% (EV = $155.55)

40.30% (EV = $458.98)

27.80% (EV = $293.35)

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1325, 4 players)
Hero bets $150, UTG raises to $300, UTG+1 calls $300, MP3 calls $300, Hero raises to $450, UTG raises to $600, UTG+1 calls $300, MP3 calls $300, Hero calls $150

6.20% (EV = -$369.05)

34.40% (EV = $681.40)

40.60% (EV = $912.35)

18.80% (EV = $100.30)

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3725, 4 players)
MP1 says "me", Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, MP1 says "not too bad"

0.00% (EV = $0.00)

50.00% (EV = $1862.50)

0.00% (EV = $0.00)

Final Pot: $3725
MP3 shows: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG shows: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG+1 shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero wins $1861 ( won +$961 )
UTG wins $1861 ( won +$961 )
MP3 lost -$900.00
UTG+1 lost -$900.00

Shabamabam · #9 11-22-2007, 07:03 PM

btw, please don't comment on how badly these hands are played. i'm testing something.

davebreal · #10 11-22-2007, 07:05 PM

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btw, please don't comment on how badly these hands are played. i'm testing something.

[/ QUOTE ]

played wrong on all streets you donkey.

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