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Old 07-21-2007, 04:48 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

villian is raising 8% we all know what he has but do you fold?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $34.10
Hero (BB): $25.30
UTG: $29.95
CO: $34.15
BTN: $13.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.85</font>, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.45</font>, CO calls $2.60, BTN folds

Flop: ($7.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $12.00</font>, hero????
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:50 PM
shoxbb6 shoxbb6 is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

All in, his range is wide than AK, and you most likely have the best hand, get it in.

Board: Th Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.354% 40.36% 01.00% 40751 1008.00 { KK+, JJ-TT, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 58.646% 57.65% 01.00% 58213 1008.00 { QQ }
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:03 PM
JoseyWales JoseyWales is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

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All in, his range is wide than AK, and you most likely have the best hand, get it in.

Board: Th Jc Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.354% 40.36% 01.00% 40751 1008.00 { KK+, JJ-TT, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 58.646% 57.65% 01.00% 58213 1008.00 { QQ }

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Yeah, but we don't know his pf 3-betting range. If you remove JJ-TT from his range then it's about flipament. Still I don't think I could get away from this.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Sniiii Sniiii is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

You can't get away with this. He can have TT, JJ, and even AQ. If he has AK, well, better luck next time.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:08 PM
shoxbb6 shoxbb6 is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

Hero 3bet, not villain, TT-JJ are definitely in his range.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

plz don't fold.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Jzo19 Jzo19 is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

neva evah fold ...evahhh
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:10 PM
tsearcher tsearcher is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

I think JJ TT should stay. You could probably get rid of KK since almost anyone will reraise with that preflop. I also think you can add 99, AT, AJ to the range.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:11 PM
JoseyWales JoseyWales is offline
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Default Re: i flop top set but its obvious i\'m behind

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Hero 3bet, not villain, TT-JJ are definitely in his range.

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Oooops, sorry you are absolutely right. I think it's time to go to sleep now.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:12 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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board: TcJdQh
Hand Pot equity
QQ 51.23%
AK,AA,KK 48.77%

you MUST felt this.
in fact i think folding top set on any flop vs any opponent is pretty bad.
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