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Old 04-29-2007, 08:53 AM
TheGrasshopper TheGrasshopper is offline
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Some of these are absolute gold.

Here is mine. Guy raises preflop with 44. Flop is 437 with two hearts. He throws out a huge continuation bet'(so far so good) and a complete donk calls him. Anyway the turn is a non heart King. He checks the turn in position. The flush draw misses and the skilled players were incredulous as to how he couldn't bet the turn.

He says "I'm playing to protect my stack". Despite the fact that over half his money was already in the pot and would be committed to any river card.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:21 PM
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Then my personal favorite, 4-8 game, I raise 99 after a limper in LP, CO reraises, I call. Flop 9xx, I bet, CO raises, limper folds, I reraise, she 4 bets, I raise (no cap in HU pot), she reraises... until she's all in (had about 40 behind after the PF betting). She flips over AKo drawing dead after the flop, lol. Explanation: You have to be aggressive with AK because people will bluff you out with anything.

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WOW

My favorite was from an old poker book I found(from the mid 70's) explaining hold 'em. In one section states that a hand like T9 was stonger than a hand like JJ, since the T9 had more ways to improve on the flop.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:26 PM
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My favorite was from an old poker book I found(from the mid 70's) explaining hold 'em. In one section states that a hand like T9 was stonger than a hand like JJ, since the T9 had more ways to improve on the flop.

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what was the context? If you know you're up against AA or KK 910 actually has slightly more equity than JJ and you're going to encounter a lot more profitable situations on the flop.
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:49 PM
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Then my personal favorite, 4-8 game, I raise 99 after a limper in LP, CO reraises, I call. Flop 9xx, I bet, CO raises, limper folds, I reraise, she 4 bets, I raise (no cap in HU pot), she reraises... until she's all in (had about 40 behind after the PF betting). She flips over AKo drawing dead after the flop, lol. Explanation: You have to be aggressive with AK because people will bluff you out with anything.

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My favorite was from an old poker book I found(from the mid 70's) explaining hold 'em. In one section states that a hand like T9 was stonger than a hand like JJ, since the T9 had more ways to improve on the flop.

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Did it mention that JJ only had 2 outs to improve while 9T had 6, and to stop whining when your PP lost? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:18 AM
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Well, my personal favorite is someone saying something like this "I was afraid of a possible flush draw making it so I didn't bet the turn."

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People who have never heard of value and think the only reason to bet is 1) you have the nuts 2) to make people fold

"Why should I bet [or raise]? They're going to call anyway"
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:11 PM
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Well, my personal favorite is someone saying something like this "I was afraid of a possible flush draw making it so I didn't bet the turn."

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People who have never heard of value and think the only reason to bet is 1) you have the nuts 2) to make people fold

"Why should I bet [or raise]? They're going to call anyway"

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You know i've gotten into arguments on more than one occasion with good players about this. By good I mean consistant winners playing full time some relying entirely on poker for income. The basic argument is calling a raise or bet on the flop with what is very likely the best hand against a calling station type player on a draw heavy board and waiting for a safe turn card before getting it in. i.e. top two or bottom set on a two tone straight draw board or a flopped flush against certain opponents you can pretty safely say don't have you beat but will call you with the stiff ace or a set

While there are are certain circumstances where this may be the best play (i.e. you know you're still gonna get payed off fully and you can confidenty fold when certain cards hit) but these circumstances are not only rare but require a very strong read.

I'm not gonna go into too much detail here but i guess it really surprises me that so many good players give up so much value here just to reduce varience.
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:36 PM
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Well, my personal favorite is someone saying something like this "I was afraid of a possible flush draw making it so I didn't bet the turn."

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The saddest thing about this is that someone who wanted to play poker professionally said this to me like it was right. I thought he was kidding, but he wasnt. I havent seen him at the local card room since. He was a nice guy too. I need to stop assuming people make random jokes like me.
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:02 PM
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Idk if anyone has mentioned this one yet, but Phil Helmuth's gem,

"AKo is better than AKs because you can make a flush with either suit"
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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Idk if anyone has mentioned this one yet, but Phil Helmuth's gem,

"AKo is better than AKs because you can make a flush with either suit"

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For those who don't know, Phil has retracted this opinion (after a night of getting buried, running them hot and cold for cash).
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:17 PM
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Some guy at Foxwoods 2/5 game "There are no bad cards, just bad flops.".
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