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Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
This might literally be the first non-tournament setting where I have reraised with AK in the preflop. I actually am sort of opposed to the idea on principle because I don't like getting that much money in with an unmade hand, but I'd seen it espoused alot in other forums (I think especially while browsing MSNL). But if you don't hit, and your cbet doesn't take it down, you've essentially dumped a great deal of BB into a losing cause.
Thoughts, anyone else making good use of this technique? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com SB ($24.55) BB ($155.55) UTG ($37.30) MP ($50) Hero ($56.20) Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.75. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (poster) raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $5.50. Flop: ($16) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12.5</font>, MP calls $12.50. Turn: ($41) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $29.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds. |
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
Youre always gonna miss flops. I just hate the idea of letting a J4 hit.
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
I just recently started doing this, as I'm new to $25nl. I have found that when I 3-bet with AK it makes it easier for the c-bet on the flop to take the pot down, whereas cold calling the raise and then betting, the donk mind will process this as bs. Start strong end strong has become my new motto.
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
Yes that's true. Usually you dump a lot of chips if both your raise and your C-bet get called.
However in my experience, usually your raise and c-bet DON'T get called. A lot of players at micro limits seem to have a lot of respect for a 3 bet, and usually assign the same range to your 3 bet, that they would 3 bet themselves. Then when you c-bet the flop, i think AK flies out hte window because "No way he's betting that big with AK here." I think you just ran into a donk that can't fold AJ here. It happens, but reraising AK preflop is good because you take down a lot of pots right there, the c-bet usually works, and it opens your 3 betting range making it harder for players to identify your big hands. |
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
I used to think along the same lines of u in terms of 3 betting with AK but like leviathan said u will usually take the pot preflop or on the flop with a c-bet. Another great thing about this play is that in the long run it will help u get more action on ur big pairs when u 3-bet with JJ-AA and if u like to 3 bet with 1010 that hand too. Dont think in the short term of the small amount of BB ur gonna lose but more of the long run where ur opponent will put u on AK and pay u of with a lesser hand. With more experience u will figure out how u can play these hands for more profit.
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
reraising a wider range increases variance, you will have many more ups and downs per session in the form of 50-100bb, if you play well it ends up making you more money, but it can be unnerving at first when you drop a buyin or 5 right off the bat. keep repoping AK, its good i promise.
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
This can be fine at these levels. But as you move up, 3-betting plays a very very important role in your development as a player, and should become a crucial part of your arsenal. I would probably suggest waiting until 100nl before starting to 3-bet a bit more frequently PF.
I would keep reraising AK pf. Its a good hand. Decent enough place to start in your 3-betting quest. |
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
I 3bet with QQ+ (sometimes JJ). I can see opening up the range as being usefuul, but I think at these levels I don't have to worry about opening up my range for the sake of getting play on the better hands. I don't think people are paying that close attention to my range since there is alot of variety in who I play at tables.
But one of my favorite things about AK is that at these levels people often overplay AQ and AJ. So I like to smooth call and try to stack those people off after the flop. Probably as play improves that becomes less useful. |
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
[ QUOTE ]
Yes that's true. Usually you dump a lot of chips if both your raise and your C-bet get called. However in my experience, usually your raise and c-bet DON'T get called. A lot of players at micro limits seem to have a lot of respect for a 3 bet, and usually assign the same range to your 3 bet, that they would 3 bet themselves. Then when you c-bet the flop, i think AK flies out hte window because "No way he's betting that big with AK here." I think you just ran into a donk that can't fold AJ here. It happens, but reraising AK preflop is good because you take down a lot of pots right there, the c-bet usually works, and it opens your 3 betting range making it harder for players to identify your big hands. [/ QUOTE ] why does that make 3betting AK good though? I donīt think itīs a good reason to 3 bet just because you can take down the pot right there or with a cbet. This would take the whole value of Ak away. I found that at 50NL people really overvalue their AJ on a A52r board. This is why I often like to call with AK in position. |
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Re: Why I don\'t reraise with AK preflop
because people call you all day long with pp fishing for sets when they don't have the correct odds to do so. when you just call a raise with it, they usually do, because there is a ton of money still left behind. if i go broke to a set in a 3bet pot with tptk, i really don't care, because even if i stacked off every single time that happened, they're still losing money.
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