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#22
11-17-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is spew
if he was not raising a limper i would find this a nobrainer.
once you do the 3bet, i think that is an auto bet...unless his folds to cont bets is really low, but i doubt that if he is 17/15 (well he is not against cont bets much anyway) 
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#23
11-17-2007, 04:59 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
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list the advantages [/ QUOTE ] i just did, w/ 96 your 2 pairs are more deceptive and so likelier to stack villain 96 makes more str8 than AT a pair of Aces w AT in a rred pot is not gonna stack KK-22 i think it really depends upon what hands the villain is willing to stack off with, because usually you're taking the pot down w/o showdown
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#24
11-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
no advantages of AT
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#25
11-17-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
keikiwai do you think the same if we are in position because I see the following line a lot.
Board Ace, rag, rag villain checks, hero checks -> hero gets value from TT+ often enough on later streets
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#26
11-17-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
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no advantages of AT [/ QUOTE ] ok, i guess if you do a weak enough pfrr to trap then AT is FUCKIGN AWESOM<E! Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter UTG: $534.20 keikiwai (MP): $408.85 CO: $348 BTN: $152.55 SB: $852.85 BB: $394 Pre-Flop: 5  5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to keikiwai (MP)UTG folds, <font color="red">keikiwai raises to $16</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $40</font>, 3 folds, keikiwai calls $24 Flop: ($86) J  Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 (2 Players)keikiwai checks, <font color="red">CO bets $24</font>, <font color="red">keikiwai raises to $140</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $308 and is All-In</font>, keikiwai calls $168 Turn: ($702) 2 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($702) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: $702 Pot ($3 Rake) keikiwai showed 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fives) and LOST (-$348 NET)CO showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T (a straight, Ten to Ace) and WON $699 (+$351 NET)
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#27
11-17-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
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keikiwai do you think the same if we are in position because I see the following line a lot. Board Ace, rag, rag villain checks, hero checks -> hero gets value from TT+ often enough on later streets [/ QUOTE ] well, ip is different
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#28
11-17-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
Guys, if you have ATo in a reraised pot and get all-in on the flop on an A-high board, AT is not going to be the best hand. Thats why I'm saying put the pokerstove away, its not about 5-card equity.
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#29
11-17-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
I like 96s.. 96o loses a little value as a 3bet bluff. But you can't automatically label it a bluff. If it works for you, awesome. In this situation I'd say 69s > ATs > 69o > ATo against the ranges you'll get called with.
C-Bet is standard and necessary... more pairs to be folded out than Ax hands in his range.
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#30
11-17-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: I do this from time to time and was told this is utter spew
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Guys, if you have ATo in a reraised pot and get all-in on the flop on an A-high board, AT is not going to be the best hand. Thats why I'm saying put the pokerstove away, its not about 5-card equity. [/ QUOTE ] this is only true for some peoples image, and why these debates are futile
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