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Old 07-14-2007, 11:51 AM
gmac gmac is offline
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Default Is calling more profitable here?

Is flat calling his flop bet into me a more profitable play here? Given my equity I think it's alright to raise but if he is weak leading into me do I want to scare him off with a re-raise here?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($22.90)
SB ($16.60)
BB ($25.45)
UTG ($20.80)
Hero ($52.70)
CO ($21.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.85.

Flop: ($-2.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1.25</font>, Hero??
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

i raise it to 3.75
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

I don't think flat calling has more value here. Any stats on villain btw?
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

No stats on the villain at that point in time. Perhaps I could extract more value by calling as he wouldn't be calling a re-raise with a hand stronger than my own?
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

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No stats on the villain at that point in time. Perhaps I could extract more value by calling as he wouldn't be calling a re-raise with a hand stronger than my own?

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A jack and a flush draw are most likely calling your raise.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:30 PM
Gullanian Gullanian is offline
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

I raise every time here.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

The disadvantage in calling is that you might not get any more money out of him if a diamond hits on the turn , Raising here might still win you a big pot against KJ,QJ if the flush doesnt hit , and u have outs against a set.

i think raising is the better play.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

You are a big favorite to win the hand at this point unless villain has a set. I raise for value here. On the turn, your equity will be much lower and then you probably have left money on the table. And a raise here can give you a free river card if you think that you can't make villain fold with a bet on the turn or you are uncertain about how much value a turn bet has.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

re raise .. easy play here
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Is calling more profitable here?

I don't totaly agree on reraising here. I'll explain my thoughtproces:

You flop a pretty awesome hand, you have TPTK and the nut flushdraw unless someone makes a straightflush offcorse.

He donks into you after limping utg, with what kind of hands would he donk into you?
-KJ, QJ type of hands
-2 diamonds
-a set (but i think a set would check/raise)
-a weaker pocketpair

If we reraise now we might lose the KJ, QJ type of hands, maybe some weak diamonds aswell.
We also lose the weaker pocket pairs.

A set would shove and we'd be around a 30:70 underdog.


If we reraise here we also lose SB for sure, just calling might drag the SB along.



Anyone with me on this one?
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