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Old 11-04-2007, 08:48 AM
atmstuck atmstuck is offline
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

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Looks like he has AK and is planning on folding to a raise. If he can read hands then it's obvious that he doesn't beat anything even if you minraise.

On this end I would just call or minraise/fold at best.

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Well, he sure as [censored] isn't calling a raise with AK if you don't give him the opportunity to do so by just calling.

Min-raise/fold is beyond retarded. Look at stack sizes. Just shove for value. He can't make a hero call with AK/AA unless you put him to that decision.

Oh, and raise the flop. WTF.

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Perfect advice really. I've started to think about paying you to coach me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. How much do you charge?
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

I prefer raising the flop here. The one player behind us doesn't have much of a stack so we don't need to worry too much about him. I make it about $40 although I don't think calling is bad.

As others have said, make it at least $30 on the turn.

As a nit I sometimes call this river but I can see arguments for value shoving given stack sizes.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

What exactly is everyone implying when they say 'given stack sizes'?
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

Given how much he has left to call and the pot size after we shove, we can get looked up by a lot of worse hands imo
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

Preflop looks pretty bad. You're going to be in terrible relative position and actualy position. You called a raise by the only decent player at the table, even if you knew it was going to be a multiway pot, i don't like it.

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I'd just raise the flop and call a push. I think raising the flop will get 88-QQ to fold all day against an observant opponent, since they'll notice theirs a player to act behind u.
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

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Looks like he has AK and is planning on folding to a raise. If he can read hands then it's obvious that he doesn't beat anything even if you minraise.

On this end I would just call or minraise/fold at best.

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Well, he sure as [censored] isn't calling a raise with AK if you don't give him the opportunity to do so by just calling.

Min-raise/fold is beyond retarded. Look at stack sizes. Just shove for value. He can't make a hero call with AK/AA unless you put him to that decision.

Oh, and raise the flop. WTF.

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Old 11-18-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: I have Flush, villain bets 1/2 pot on river, do I raise for value

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Looks like he has AK and is planning on folding to a raise. If he can read hands then it's obvious that he doesn't beat anything even if you minraise.

On this end I would just call or minraise/fold at best.

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Well, he sure as [censored] isn't calling a raise with AK if you don't give him the opportunity to do so by just calling.

Min-raise/fold is beyond retarded. Look at stack sizes. Just shove for value. He can't make a hero call with AK/AA unless you put him to that decision.

Oh, and raise the flop. WTF.

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