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Old 09-06-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

villain is 16/11/4. I`m 14/9/6.

I think I should have decided what to do with the hand on the flop.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($80.85)
BB ($60.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($3) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($31) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $44.55 (All-In)</font>

Hero ?
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Old 09-06-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

I definitely just get this in on the flop, very drawy flop, and you pretty much are only beat by AJ here(JJ/AA unlikely cause of preflop action, 22 cause we have a 2).
Turn is a fold as played.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

As played I fold. Although I do agree with the "decide what to do on flop" train of thought. I'm not crazy about putting him on a combo draw on flop (QTs, KQs, KTs), because his 3bet on flop is tiny.

Ugh, tough spot, I think ya shoulda pushed flop.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

How long you guys been playin HU?? cause the stats are pretty nitty...but does villian really not 3bet AJ+ HU?? I agree this is def a flop decision spot. Does he really 3bet the flop here w/ less than 2 pair?? TBH im not sure whats the best play here which is why I pretty much just wanted to bump this up. As played tho i think its a pretty EZ fold on the turn. Draws got there and now we only beat a bluff or a really badly played TPGK hand.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

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How long you guys been playin HU?? cause the stats are pretty nitty...but does villian really not 3bet AJ+ HU?? I agree this is def a flop decision spot. Does he really 3bet the flop here w/ less than 2 pair?? TBH im not sure whats the best play here which is why I pretty much just wanted to bump this up. As played tho i think its a pretty EZ fold on the turn. Draws got there and now we only beat a bluff or a really badly played TPGK hand.

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people at 50max dont know what 3 betting light is and even the regulars don't regularly 3 bet AJ or even JJ
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

lol 3beting JJ+ and AJ+ isnt 3bettin light
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

Two pair HU, you'd need a killer read not to push the flop. People play different HU. Don't think stats are big here except AF. Most people prob 3-betting AT, A9, and aggro players getting silly with flush draws on this flop. Not much beats you and some of it is calling.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

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lol 3beting JJ+ and AJ+ isnt 3bettin light

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never said it was.....just said that ppl don't even know what 3betting light is and that even standard 3betting hands are not 3bet a 50max by ppl that regularly play the game
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: A2 flops top and button pair, but gets 4bet on flop.

We just started HU play. It was 4handed if I remember correctly and 2 shorties left.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:27 AM
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I definitely just get this in on the flop

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