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Old 11-26-2007, 05:15 PM
irockhoess irockhoess is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

id prob just call the flop. hardly ever do does someone check raise here as a bluff or semi bluff against the preflop raiser after just flatting out of the blinds, so by check raising youre pretty much saying i have 2 pair+.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

this is standard 3b preflop no?
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:55 PM
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this is standard 3b preflop no?

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if you wanna be deepstacked and oop against 2 people, yes.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

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id prob just call the flop. hardly ever do does someone check raise here as a bluff or semi bluff against the preflop raiser after just flatting out of the blinds, so by check raising youre pretty much saying i have 2 pair+.

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turn plan?
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

check
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

This is almost identical to a hand posted yesterday except in that case the hero had AK for top 2. The consensus was to lead flop, I think the same applies for this hand. If you get stacked then so be it in a lot of ways. The only alternative here is to try and reduce river losses if in fact u are beat.

Would be interested to know how CTS wld play it.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:50 PM
AcTiOnJaCsOn AcTiOnJaCsOn is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

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id prob just call the flop. hardly ever do does someone check raise here as a bluff or semi bluff against the preflop raiser after just flatting out of the blinds, so by check raising youre pretty much saying i have 2 pair+.

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i like this as long as you lead the turn. In this hand probably have to bet, eventhough the evidence for c/f seems nice
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

i cant see how he ever gets to this river with worse than a straight or a boat...

i really dont think c/f is that bad unless he's absolutely insane. i'd maybe call a smallish bet
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

lol c/f this river please
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 v traheho standard no?

I hate these hands and this same scenario occured to me in wild variations in the past.
From my expierence Traheho1 won't have a weaker hand than QJ in this spot and I doubt he would play it that way all too often.
He plays very tight lately and by raising the flop you basically say you have a very strong hand (I don't see you having anything worse than KTs or ATs)..
I think in this specific spot I stay passiv because I barely see us getting paid by worse hands and I want the pot to stay as small as possible.
So c/c flop, c/c turn and due to the fact that our hand is so underrep. and the pot is smaller I would c/c the river as well.
Whoever said c/f river, I don't think this is a bad line against Villain.
I doubt he will ever show up with a worse hand in that spot and I also doubt he would value bet QJs there too frequently.
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