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04-15-2007, 03:05 PM
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Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
Not much stats on vilain. He runs at 33/16.5/1.7
I have not seen him do anything stupid so far. Seem like a med/good LAG. My image is LAGGISH and AGGRO. I just arrived and got some big hand and hit some big draws and pushed then hard. They did'nt saw many of those hands in SD, but the time I got there I had it. I bluffed in some spot but did'nt get caught yet. Comment on the fold pls... I'm in a tought spot whit no plan.. Comment on early street... How can I avoid puting myself in that spot? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) <font color="black">Hero (SB): $924.60</font> BB: $160 UTG: $156.80 MP: $419.80 CO: $922 <font color="black">Vilain (BTN): $1175.20</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Vilain raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54</font>, BB folds, Vilain calls $40 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($112) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $77</font>, Vilain calls $77 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($266) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">Vilain bets $266</font>, Hero folds Uncalled bet of $266 returned to Vilain 
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#3
04-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
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id lead again. [/ QUOTE ] Why? For how much? Do you call a push? -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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04-17-2007, 10:50 AM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
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[ QUOTE ] id lead again. [/ QUOTE ] Why? For how much? Do you call a push? [/ QUOTE ] Becuase you probably have the best hand. ~2/3 pot is fine. No.
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#5
04-17-2007, 11:33 AM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
i think calling and c/fing any blank, potting any spade is way better than leading again
folding seems safest but you say you're LAG and your opponent is pretty loose, so i don't think i'd ever fold before the river here
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#6
04-17-2007, 11:59 AM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
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i think calling and c/fing any blank, potting any spade is way better than leading again folding seems safest but you say you're LAG and your opponent is pretty loose, so i don't think i'd ever fold before the river here [/ QUOTE ] Yeah but he's not a LAGTARD, more of a med/solid LAG. He is not in there with AJ (maybe AsJx). Is hand range here is prety much narrowed down to a set, a flush whit some SC, QxQs, KK, AA, AK or AQ with A or K of spade or AsKs. AsQs, or Air. Plus I suspect he'd ratter see the river for free most of the time whit a flush or the nut flush draw (AsJx, AsKx, AxKs, AsQx, AxQs). So a push is -EV since he'll call when I'm beat and I'm drawing to 2 or even 1 out, or, the rare times I'm ahead, whit as much as 14/15outs. If I call, I'm commmited to call a river bet, with a ~750$ pot and ~530$ behind. I river PSB from him will lay me ~1280$:530 so about 2.5:1 Yet calling down for my whole stack whit just QQ being that deep seems retarded a little to me... I'm still lost. I guess the key he's to avoid that spot. Any idea about a good line to take? -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#7
04-17-2007, 12:07 PM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
if you call you are NOT committed to call a river bet, that's just an atrocious way to think about poker
if you narrow down his hand range to the above range, why even post this? it's a clear fold... and no one is advocating a push, so wtf?
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#8
04-17-2007, 12:21 PM
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Re: Building a big pot whit QQ oop, 230bb deep
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if you call you are NOT committed to call a river bet, that's just an atrocious way to think about poker if you narrow down his hand range to the above range, why even post this? it's a clear fold... [/ QUOTE ] Because he is good enought to know i'll put him on that range and pot whit air. Putting pressure whit a lot of money left to bet. [ QUOTE ] and no one is advocating a push, so wtf? [/ QUOTE ] Here's THE F...: [ QUOTE ] Comment on early street... How can I avoid puting myself in that spot? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm still lost. I guess the key he's to avoid that spot. Any idea about a good line to take? [/ QUOTE ] -Happy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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