J9s position raise turn into a big 3 way pot on turn

[happyjaypee]

Hi all,

SB is a loose fish with 56/3.7/1.9. He has called a lot of my raise and call the flop light. So far I have either pushed him of is hand on the turn or won a SD vs him.

MP is also pretty loose fishy. He folded on the turn earlier vs my flopped top 2 when I had just sat down and got mad at me for not showing??? Go figure... After that 1st hand, I have been very aggro and he started to call my PFR a lot. I was lucky enought to hit big and stacked him once.

My image right now is very loose aggro, and i'm not getting any respect even if I got to SD with big hand when they all started to call me light.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($208.15)
Button ($48.65)
SB ($39.30)
BB ($40.80)
UTG ($133.95)
MP ($118.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, 9.
<font color="black">1 fold</font>, MP calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls $4.50, BB calls $4, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($20) J, 5, 8 <font color="green">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, SB calls $14, BB folds, MP calls $14.

Turn: ($62) T <font color="green">(4 players)</font>
<font color="red">SB bets $20.3 (All-In)</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $40.6</font>, Hero???

Ok, I don't give credit to SB for having anything here because I have never see him betting strong with strong hands. When strong, he either underbet or slowplay.

MP min raise confuses me. Why would he try to shut me off with the nut/big flush? A call from him in that spot would scares me more then that min raise. But he still have 60$ after that 40$ raise and it's going in the middle no matter what. I'm either folding or pushing. So is it worth 100$ more from me?

Thanks


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[TheProbst]

folds

[TheHoss]

push

[happyjaypee]

lol, ok anyone of you care to elaborate why?

[LilleSus]

folds

[pokerOpus]

The good news is if you call you still have 2 live outs even if you are against Ax or Kx of spades.

From your description it seems neither player is giving you much credit for a hand and I dont see MP raising with the nuts to shut you out.

This is a tough spot and I would just trust my read here, which would be to push given the opponents.

[maccamack]

I agree with the others here - MP wants you to come along with the nuts - not bet you out. Push. I don't think you are beaten here, but you don't want to see the board pair.