tough spot w/ AA fairly deep

stunna954 · #1 11-29-2007, 01:22 AM

I've been experimenting playing more lag (28/25) then I have in the past but I'm having difficulty with big overpairs.

Heres a spot where I'm really am having a difficult time. Villain in this hand is playing 14/10/2, he seems to be a thinking player and I've 3bet him a couple of times before.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $162.35
UTG: $42.10
CO: $199
BTN: $139
SB: $94.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $15, CO calls $11

Flop: ($30.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $21.50, CO raises to $75, Hero.....?

ofishstix · #2 11-29-2007, 01:29 AM

shove. he cant fold a draw after putting this much in and may think AT+ is the nuts.

markuisis · #3 11-29-2007, 01:32 AM

Get it in given history all day long, could easily be a fd, straight draw, overpairs or even frustrated tens that dont want the board to get any scarier and think ur pushing them around. If this was ur first 3bet on a nit like this then it could be interesting, as is uve just gotta figure he plays back with the range I mentioned enough of the time to justify getting it in IMO.

Speel Posher · #4 11-29-2007, 01:36 AM

i dont know why this is a tough spot, big bets like this are overpairs or kq spades. you are way ahead more times than not given history

this is why three betting people a lot works, because they make a stand with weak holdings.

dregal · #5 11-29-2007, 01:50 AM

Yeah with a LAG image this is an auto shove for 1500 bb's (fist pump at that). Villian has JJ-KK/AKs here a lot of the time.

stunna954 · #6 11-29-2007, 01:54 AM

Maybe this wasn't the best example but how would it change if we're holding QQ or JJ?

stunna954 · #7 11-29-2007, 01:57 AM

Here are the results by the way

Flop: ($30.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $21.50, CO raises to $75, Hero raises to $147.35 and is All-In, CO calls $72.35

Turn: ($325.20) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($325.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $325.20 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Eights) and LOST (-$162.35 NET)
CO showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and WON $323.20 (+$160.85 NET)

loosbastard · #8 11-29-2007, 02:00 AM

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I've been experimenting playing more lag (28/25) then I have in the past but I'm having difficulty with big overpairs.

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Playing LAG should make over-pairs easier to play, not harder.

And yeah, easy shove. QQ is closer. JJ is a fold.

markuisis · #9 11-29-2007, 02:01 AM

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Maybe this wasn't the best example but how would it change if we're holding QQ or JJ?

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Well with AA, u have 61.5% equity against this range: TT+,88,44,AsKs,AsQs,AsJs,ATs,KsQs,KsJs,QsJs,9s8s, if u include some straight drawing hands or worse tens in his range than ur equity increases even more. With JJ, u have only 25% against the same range (easy muck) and with QQ u have 36% and can muck it safely being this deep as well.