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Old 05-10-2007, 01:11 AM
jaroot jaroot is offline
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Default 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

PokerStars Game #9832006938: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/05/09 - 19:49:57 (ET)
Table 'Hedda' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: HERO ($216 in chips)
Seat 2: Benjo_DiMeo ($289 in chips)
Seat 3: bford23 ($45 in chips)
Seat 4: azynbeauty ($138 in chips)
Seat 5: thetorch21 ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 6: howdumb ($136 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Benjo_DiMeo: posts big blind $3
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to HERO [4d 9s 5h 8d 6h]
bford23: folds
azynbeauty: folds
thetorch21: raises $3 to $6
howdumb: calls $6
HERO: ?????????
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:41 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

I think its a fold. Would jam and stand pat when a bit tilty.

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Old 05-10-2007, 02:09 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

Jam and pat 100%. Especially in the low-limit games where you'll virtually never get raised by a worse hand.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

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Jam and pat 100%. Especially in the low-limit games where you'll virtually never get raised by a worse hand.

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Out of position vs 2 opponents at a minimum? "I dont like it bob, I don't like it a bit". I play it like Death Donkey, including the tilty jsm/pat.
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:18 AM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

I find patting no-draw nines adds just about the right amount to my mix to keep people drawing dead against my sevens and eights. And they're very marginally -ev if at all; one or two 100% dead bets will make up for many times patting a nine as an underdog. It does take a fair amount of skill at playing them to keep from spewing, but it's pretty easy at 3/6 where a raise from most players is totally reliable.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

I fold this, but to those advocating patting and jamming, what's your plan if a Villain draws 1 and is happy to cap every subsequent round with you (and is also pat)?
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:24 PM
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I fold this, but to those advocating patting and jamming, what's your plan if a Villain draws 1 and is happy to cap every subsequent round with you (and is also pat)?

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Muck it at the first sign of aggression. Fold to a raise on round 2 or 3, fold to a bet if you get to the river & check.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

I'm still new at this game, but I'd be in there raising. If everyone draws at least twice, you're likely a huge favorite. I'd start this hand very agr and see how it played out.
They are likely drawing better, but they still have to get there....
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: 2-7 TD: Pat 9 from the SB..

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I think its a fold. Would jam and stand pat when a bit tilty.



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Yeah I'd probably do the opposite. I'd usually pat/jam but would fold if I was losing because I wouldn't trust myself to play it well and folding now has got to be better than making a bad calldown or fold later.

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Especially in the low-limit games where you'll virtually never get raised by a worse hand.

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This I agree with completely. At 3/6 the chance of someone forcing a bad fold (similarly there won't be a spot where you are making a bad calldown) is extremely slim and the hand should play out pretty straightforward/easily.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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I fold this, but to those advocating patting and jamming, what's your plan if a Villain draws 1 and is happy to cap every subsequent round with you (and is also pat)?

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Muck it at the first sign of aggression. Fold to a raise on round 2 or 3, fold to a bet if you get to the river & check.

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Pretty much. It's still a good idea to bet-fold and check-call rivers from time to time.

I've been known to jam the hell out of these in the right spot, but mostly you fold to aggression. These are win-win hands: you either win a nice medium-sized pot, or you fold and look weak, encouraging people to raise you light when you're pat. If you're in a game where they already do that, folding starts to become a much better idea.
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