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Old 11-28-2007, 04:50 PM
Poshua Poshua is offline
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

This still sounds to me like a logistically poor promotion. They're going to have to verify a whole bunch of bad beat hands, slowing games and taking up floor supervisors' time, all in order to make just four payouts at the end of the month.

Separately, do these payouts go entirely to the bad beatee, or will there be a beatee/beater/table share split?
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st


How do they define "worst" bad beat? I suppose the worst possible bad beat would be in you get all your money in on the flop, and your opponent has to hit a 2-outer on the turn, followed by a 1-outer on the river, to beat you (running quads or running straight flush).

However, most Bad Beat Jackpots are misnamed, and should really be something like "Cold Deck Jackpot". In other words, does "worst bad beat" just mean the best losing hand?
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:43 PM
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In other words, does "worst bad beat" just mean the best losing hand?

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I suspect so.
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

Seems pretty straightforward.

The best hand that loses (that's higher than Aces full of eights - ha!). No "winner" share. No table share.

Would nice to lose with a Q-high straight flush this weekend and lock in the top prize.

I know there have been some suggested reasons, but I'm curious what the top reasons for the powers that be to put on this promotion. It used to be the giveaways each December. Is it just "Oh, it's time for our December promotion cause it's the low season"? Is December the low season for poker in AC?

btw, "Cold Deck Jackpot" is cute, but an even worse name. That conjures up images of seeing 27o every hand for three orbits.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

Here is a link explaining it all

Borgata Bad Beat Jackpot Link
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

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The best hand that loses (that's higher than Aces full of eights - ha!). No "winner" share. No table share.


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Nope, there is a "winner" and table share. Check out the above link.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

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This still sounds to me like a logistically poor promotion. They're going to have to verify a whole bunch of bad beat hands, slowing games and taking up floor supervisors' time, all in order to make just four payouts at the end of the month.


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A "whole bunch of hands"? You see Aces full of Eights lose that often (when both hole cards play)?

I don't know, but in an 80+ table room, there might be, what, 10 qualifying hands in a 24 hour period? I think even that's on the high side. That's not a whole bunch.

Although, that's just my guess and could be way off...any dealers or floor, feel free to chime in with your guesses....
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:21 AM
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This still sounds to me like a logistically poor promotion. They're going to have to verify a whole bunch of bad beat hands, slowing games and taking up floor supervisors' time, all in order to make just four payouts at the end of the month.


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A "whole bunch of hands"? You see Aces full of Eights lose that often (when both hole cards play)?

I don't know, but in an 80+ table room, there might be, what, 10 qualifying hands in a 24 hour period? I think even that's on the high side. That's not a whole bunch.

Although, that's just my guess and could be way off...any dealers or floor, feel free to chime in with your guesses....

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I'm with you, it won't happen that often. And when it does you probably have more EV from the bad beat jackpot then from the 2 or 3 hands you're going to miss playing.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: IT SUCKS THAT A Bad Beat Jackpot is coming to Borgata Dec. 1st

Yeah, my bad. I thought Borgata might want to skip keeping records/tracking down winners for the whole from from possibly ten players from every qualifying hand.

But I guess any BBJ keeps a record of all players anyway for eternity.

I'd love to hear about the effect this promotion will have on the other raked-BBJ rooms. I'd imagine it COULD be significant - especially during daytime hours.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:26 AM
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I can't wait until the new poker room opens up in the Revel. That's where we will all be playing soon.

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Where is the Revel? Is that the new casino where the Sands used to be?

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No, Revel is building a casino on the other side of Showboat. Pinnacle is the company building a casino where the Sands used to be. MGM Grand is to build a casino in the Marina distict, and another company (can not remember name right now) is interested in building a casino on the boardwalk north of Hilton.

Don't pay attention to any casino revenue numbers now. 2011 and 2012 are the years that are going to be the most important.

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North of the Hilton? Wouldn't that be south of the Hilton? That parcel is zoned for a casino, ever since gambling was legalized in AC. It is the former site of the old AC high School.

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No, the old AC High is now a parking lot. The area in question is the lot across the street toward the beach, where they started building the Dunes casino, which fell through. Remember the steel structure that just sat there for all those years?
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