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Old 11-15-2007, 08:37 AM
Striker Striker is offline
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Default 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $320.35
SB: $290.35
Hero (BB): $229.40
UTG: $310.55
CO: $1,276.85

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BTN calls $20

Flop: ($57) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42</font>, BTN calls $42

Turn: ($141) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $159.40 and is All-In</font>

Just wondering what you guys think of this.

Villain is 24/19 over like 170 hands at the time with an ATS of 38.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:00 AM
Edmuntus Edmuntus is offline
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

Villain has to call here $159 for a $300 pot. He looses $70 if he folds. Villain could have a set or a draw. A villain this aggressive does not have a king very often and will usually shove AKo. . Villains calling range preflop is probably: 76s+, 22+, AQo+. A king on the turn does not help him here very often. However, if villain has a king, this is a snap call for him.

What hands would villain call the flop with? Everything suited diamonds , KQ perhaps, sets. He would probably shove combo draws like T8s. But might call with T8r or 68r.

It depends on your image whether to call with a marginal hand or not. I think a push here is very thin.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

3-bet history with villain is needed to assign a range.
If you have been 3-betting him light then obv his range for seeing the flop is wider and thus less polarised around AK,KQ type hands. Then it boils down to whether or not he has a flush draw enough of the time. If you have been hardly 3-betting him then his 3-bet calling range is much tighter and will mainly include hands that have you crushed and are not folding. However what calls that flop that isnt Kx,99,77 or FD/combo draw? I think its marginal either side of the EV=0
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

You don't think that the villain is floating with QQ-TT here? Considering the turn i think that I have good fold equity against these hands given the turn, and I think that even the FD's will consider a fold since the board paired.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

I don't like pf, but once you get to the turn the way you did I think shoving is the best line.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

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You don't think that the villain is floating with QQ-TT here? Considering the turn i think that I have good fold equity against these hands given the turn, and I think that even the FD's will consider a fold since the board paired.

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i would think you'd actually get looked up more by QQ with the second king coming on the turn than otherwise, but maybe i'm wrong about that.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

how bad is he?
I actually think I prefer betting about 85$ here, looks a bit stronger imo.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

I dont like pf, but your line is definetely representing a king
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

I like preflop.

Turn is close but I think you need to c/f. Your equity is quite bad vs a mix of Kx/QQ and some discounted sets. You holding JT makes JJ/TT less likely.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Good/Bad/BARF?

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I like preflop.

Turn is close but I think you need to c/f. Your equity is quite bad vs a mix of Kx/QQ and some discounted sets. You holding JT makes JJ/TT less likely.

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Agreed. I c/f here.
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