Sick river spot with 3rd nuts versus Vanilla TAG

[martijn]

I'dd rather fold than shove here. I think call is best, but man, he's got us here like always lol.

[traz]

yea I shove i think

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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Aren't we deciding between call & raise rather than call & fold?

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Why can't we decide between all three?

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You're getting almost 3.5:1. You're not beat often enough to justify folding.

3 card combinations beat you, you beat 8 reasonable card combos that include Qs. You have to believe that he almost *never* makes this play with the Qs to fold. I don't think that assumption is reasonable often enough to not at least call.

[Chicago Twister]

Open push the river obv.