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Old 10-18-2007, 03:17 PM
NoahSD NoahSD is offline
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All you guys who c-bet when you miss and check when you hit, um, you realize that's terrible right?

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Terrible how exactly?
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:19 PM
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claunch,
why? i doubt our ranges will be so narrowed and face up when we check. plenty of regs will also bluff to a check in rr-ed pots. plus, we shouldnt be betting 100% of the time anyways.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:28 PM
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Jesus, you guys 3-bet a lot. I think I'm more likely to fold a lot of those hands than 3-bet them. Food for thought for me.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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no i will not be exploited at 1/2

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If you're not comfortable playing extremely exploitably against almost all of the 1/2 regs, move up to where they respect your raises or something.

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Huh, I don't get your post? Normally you're NEVER sarcastic, so I don't really get it.

I'm saying that people at 1/2 aren't good enough to exploit me if I'm 3 betting OOP with marginals a lot.

So, you're saying I should move up to where they fold too much? They do that now fwiw.

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Old 10-18-2007, 03:33 PM
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claunch,
why? i doubt our ranges will be so narrowed and face up when we check. plenty of regs will also bluff to a check in rr-ed pots. plus, we shouldnt be betting 100% of the time anyways.

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Well, yeah, checking is fine sometimes as long as you c/f a fair amount of the time when you miss.

I just saw more than one response that had the default action of c-betting every flop they miss and checking when they hit, which is just dumb.

Something vaguely close to a good frequency would be c/f the missed hands like 40% or so (more often on non-A-hi flops imo), c-betting the other 60%. Mostly c/cing Ax, occassionally b/cing against a trickier/more aggro reg. Almost always leading with 88.

Also, what ikes said, it's totally possible/often-preferable to call and do something postflop to win the hand.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:34 PM
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I have no idea how to quote, but jesus I want to quote ike right now. Christ almighty what do you guys NOT 3 bet oop. LEARN HOW TO CALLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:35 PM
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I have no idea how to quote

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lol noob
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:37 PM
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Jesus, you guys 3-bet a lot.

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Old 10-18-2007, 03:43 PM
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no i will not be exploited at 1/2

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If you're not comfortable playing extremely exploitably against almost all of the 1/2 regs, move up to where they respect your raises or something.

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Huh, I don't get your post? Normally you're NEVER sarcastic, so I don't really get it.

I'm saying that people at 1/2 aren't good enough to exploit me if I'm 3 betting OOP with marginals a lot.

So, you're saying I should move up to where they fold too much? They do that now fwiw.

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Oh.. I thought you were saying you were trying to be unexploitable by betting almost every hand in your range on that flop--which is def the unexploitable play given your pf range vs. the caller's pf range. You should be checking Ax on that flop.. not close.
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