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Old 01-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Great post.

Compelling and rich.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

I think pokey just added another BB/100 to my winrate . . .

Thankyou!
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Very nice Pokey!

I presume this will get stickied right?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Pokey, you've already done enough but could I possibly ask you to elaborate somewhat on a players range of hands according to position. e.g, villain with 30% vpip and 15% PFR, raises in MP as opposed to OTB or UTG. These ranges could be narrowed down further by taking villains position into account. Any sub-commandment/guidelines for that aside from assuming their range is slightly wider OTB and narrower UTG? I suppose in uNL this maybe irreleveant for a lot of villains with fishier stats as they arent really positionally aware but still useful for average tags no?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Printed it out. 10 pages. Impressive.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

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Old 01-02-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Nice post! One quick addition:

For a reasonable player the bet, check behind, bet pattern can be pot control + value bet rather than missed draw. I do this often. Catch something like TPTK, bet flop, check behind on turn for pot control and then value bet the river when villain checks.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

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Quit. Posting.

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FYP.
Now the tables will be filled with excellent hand-readers who will raise me off my TPGK every single time.
"Thanks" Pokey.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

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Nice post! One quick addition:

For a reasonable player the bet, check behind, bet pattern can be pot control + value bet rather than missed draw. I do this often. Catch something like TPTK, bet flop, check behind on turn for pot control and then value bet the river when villain checks.

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...also perfect for inducing a bluff.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: An Unbelievably Long Guide to Hand-Reading.

Spot-on. Well done!

(Ignoring the quibble about the exact definition of 2nd-level thinking, of course.)

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As long and detailed as this is, know that I am just giving you the tip of the iceberg, here.

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Yep, and all you have to do is internalize all of this plus lots more, and put it into practice playing 6+ tables for hours on end, and hardly ever make big mistakes, and YOU TOO can make EZ MONIEZ as a poker professional!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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