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Old 11-22-2007, 01:07 AM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

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I'm also lmaousuck too obviously becuase I just don't see how pf is that horrendous, are you saying he should instafold here?

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1. Our hand is dominated a lot by a UTG raiser.
2. Especially vs one with 13 pfr
3. Stars has a 2/5 blind structure.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

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I'm also lmaousuck too obviously becuase I just don't see how pf is that horrendous, are you saying he should instafold here?

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You aren't dominated per se, but you are basically cold calling over 1.5 bets in the worst possible position.

So yes, this is an instamuck.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

LOL @ folding preflop

Take it out of hypernit Hip [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

We do agree on river tho. 97, 96 and expert AA, KK. Dont fold.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

no dont fold
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

Once the CO coldcalls 2 bets on the flop I would put him on a flush draw or 9 (and maybe 33). I strongly lean towards a flush draw since a 9 would probably just cap it. I doubt that UTG will suddenly check the turn after raising preflop and 3-betting the flop. So, I think I want to see a non-diamond turn and try to CR the field instead of 4-betting the flop and leading the turn.

Another alternative is to call the 3-bet and donk a non-diamond turn and hope that UTG will raise so you can 3-bet.

Once the diamond hits on the turn you are just praying that CO somehow has 98 or 97 because that's generally all you beat on that turn based on CO's flop action. Therefore, it's probably best to check-call 1 bet on the turn and fold if it goes bet-raise.

Also, keep in mind that UTG could be on a flush draw based on his flop action, further reducing your chances of being ahead when this turn card hits.
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

I think the chance CO has AA here alone is enough to call. I don't think preflop is bad if there's a reasonable chance BB comes along as well.
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

Do... Not... Fold...
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

UGH!!!!

CO hit his flush so even tho this looks awful, i have to fold there. Not to mention that UTG may have an A9 which puts you in bad shape also...nh.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

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Do... Not... Fold...

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What if we have it tagged that CO is not an expert player. if he's a call station he can't have anything BUT a flush here.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: T9s trips river fold

I'd fold preflop with the 2/5 structure. With another caller in it's an easy call. As for the river, I suppose you were 93% sure you were beat?
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