Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

[sparky3474]

Guys why not go easy on her she is probably taking advice from a lawyer and she is not saying anything as that is the advice she was given, guilty or innocent. She has 47K hanging in the balance and I would follow his advice too.

[indianaV8]

Maybe someone simply used CopyBot to model and reproduce pokergirlz winning strategy?

[BurnleyMik]

Any updates?

[sparky3474]

I find it really hard to go either way here, remember in the last big bot scandal we had 4 players with identical stats and it turned out they played from the same location and some how they got cleared of everything and I thought there was absolutely no doubt about their guilt.

[Wahoo73]

sillysal-

I originally posted the following in this thread on Oct 26 at 1PM (this is a thinly-veiled BRAG, inasmuch as I was the first of many to speculate about this):
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Deja vu all over again?

sillysal=BeatMe1?????

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At the time I made this post, I was only speculating based on two factors:

1. The substantive similarity in the circumstances of the two cases.
2. The stylistic similarity in the postings of the two OPs, i.e., you (sillysal) and BeatMe1.

I have only in the last two days revisited this thread and my original suspicions about you and BeatMe1 have only hardened. Admittedly, my suspicions are only based on circumstantial evidence, but in addition to my two reasons cited above we now also have the following:

1. You have admitted to knowing redgar3, who it has been proven is the same person as BeatMe1. Yet you have carefully answered this question about BeatMe1, which has been raised multiple times in this thread, by only admitting to know redgar3. I believe this is a conscious decision on your part to only make reference to redagr3 so that you can disassociate yourself from the BeatMe1 case in the eyes of this forum. Why would you do that? If you and BeatMe1/redgar3 are not the same person, you appear to have an on-going relationship. What is the nature and extent of that relationship? My belief is that if you're not one and the same, you are fellow female high-stakes LHE HU poker players at FTP who utilize the same sort of AI assistance to play and who consult/coordinate with each other.

2. Then there is the common tie to and obvious animosity toward Mr Gatorade/Crazy Mike. It's utterly fascinating that you and BeatMe1 both claim that Mr Gatorade/Crazy Mike has been "attacking", "harrassing", "accusing", etc., you for "years" in both this thread and the original BeatMe1 thread. The oddest thing about this, though, is that it sounds like BeatMe1 and MrGatorade/Crazy Mike have never met in person, and yet in this thread it sounds like you and MrGatorade/Crazy Mike have met in person. It's also obvious that you, BeatMe1 and Mr Gatorade/Crazy Mike are located somewhere in southern California based on the comments all of you have made regarding the Bicyle Casino and the San Diego area. Can you explain more fully the nature of your relationship with MrGatorade/Crazy Mike, and how it differs from the relationship between BeatMe1 and MrGatorade/Crazy Mike?

3. Your poker background/experience as described by you and others in this thread is strikingly similar to BeatMe1's avowed background in the other thread. Since you have admitted to knowing her, i.e., redgar3 aka BeatMe1, please explain to us how your poker backgrounds/experiences are dissimilar.

Lastly, there is the issue of this:

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1) Have you at any time used ANY other account on Full Tilt other than pokergirl z? If so, which account(s)?



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I can’t comment on the specifics of this investigation now but I have answered every question that Full Tilt and Mike Haven have asked me.


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Yet earlier in this thread on at least two occasions that I could find, you categorically denied having two accounts at FTP. Why did you change your answer?

Honestly, I don't expect you to provide any direct or substantive answers to the questions or issues I have raised, nor to any of the other relevant questions raised by others since you made your last post in this thread. Surprise me!

[sparky3474]

I have a feeling that sooner or later we are going to hear that sillysal did have multiple accounts over the years but they were not active at the same time nor were they used to collude or play at the same time but bingo, violation of terms of service, take the money, end of story.

[PartyGirlUK]

sillysal, you say your name is not Lisa, then why did you answer 'Lisa' on AIM when I asked you what your real name? Why did I once ask you a very specific question on AIM, yet have grego777 answer it in FT chat?

Im honestly not sure exactly what is going on here, but if you really didn't run a bot I'd urge you to come 100% clean, as the current sequence of events leaves you looking very shady right now.

Also, I know Gehrig IRL and he is definitely not trying to thin the field. I would take his word seriously, as he is well informed and won't pass judgment until he is sure of what he says.

[apefish]

Bump for resolution?

[LateNiteRush]

I too would like to know if there are any new developments.

[Mike Haven]

I have received an e-mail from a consultant hired by FTP to review every aspect of the case.

He has stated that FTP has now, after receiving his full report, concluded finally all investigations and that, basically, the initial verdict and punishment stands. The case is closed.

The consultant recommended to FTP that they redistribute the seized funds to the victims.