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Old 11-16-2007, 07:58 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default JJ at KQx flop 5 way, easy check/fold?

$0.50/$1.00

MP1 ($48.25) (Hero)
MP2 ($9.00)
MP3 ($33.34)
CO ($6.38)
Button ($10.10)
SB ($13.40)
BB ($11.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls,

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 5.25BB )
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls,

Easy check/fold?
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:07 PM
slothinator slothinator is offline
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Default Re: JJ at KQx flop 5 way, easy check/fold?

No way I am folding here. You've got 12.5 SB in the pot at the spot where you folded, and you have four outs (2 jacks, and backdoor flush/straight draws). I would call here and see what the turn brings. If it's a total blank, I'm check/folding.

Question: Am I overvaluing my outs in this situation, especially since it's 5-way?
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:38 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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Default Re: JJ at KQx flop 5 way, easy check/fold?

I thought that I have like 2 outs to set and weak bdfd and weak bdsd. So all about 3 outs not closing the action.

This BDSD with one card (KQJ) makes not so many str8 becouse I cant get at turn OESD when Ace hit and sometimes I will split pot. So I give 0.5 outs here.

Also I give 0.5 for 3rd one card BDFD (possibly its worth even less but Im not sure).
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:14 PM
TimovieMan TimovieMan is offline
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Default Re: JJ at KQx flop 5 way, easy check/fold?

I think you're undervaluing your backdoor outs. I'll be more inclined to count them as 1 out each, making 4 outs total. And that means you have correct odds to peel
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