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#1
11-27-2007, 11:01 PM
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Re: in over my head
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youre right you are in over your head. [/ QUOTE ] Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but is there anything specific from my post (aside from the title) that you see as particularly wrong/naive? I know you're a good player/poster so I'd genuinely appreciate any further thoughts. Thanks. 
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#2
11-28-2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: in over my head
unless you just happen to have a lot of money and dont care if you lose it you shouldnt be playing 100-200 without having already developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this. this sort of situation is a very common one. this is the sort of question that you should figure out in your first 6 months or so of playing low and mid limit hold em. also if youre playing 1-2 you should ideally have read a bunch of books that address this sort of issue (the 2+2 ones are the best) and will show you the sort of thinking you need to be doing in order to beat different sorts of games and opponents. so in short yes your post sounds naive.
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#3
11-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: in over my head
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unless you just happen to have a lot of money and dont care if you lose it you shouldnt be playing 100-200 without having already developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this. this sort of situation is a very common one. this is the sort of question that you should figure out in your first 6 months or so of playing low and mid limit hold em. also if youre playing 1-2 you should ideally have read a bunch of books that address this sort of issue (the 2+2 ones are the best) and will show you the sort of thinking you need to be doing in order to beat different sorts of games and opponents. so in short yes your post sounds naive. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, this is silly. Everybody wonders what to do when they're in this situation, and few 1/2 players have "developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this". Does mikel even play 1/2 anymore or has he given it up since his JJ raise/fold preflop?
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#4
11-28-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: in over my head
"Does mikel even play 1/2 anymore or has he given it up since his JJ raise/fold preflop?"
so because id mastered the game so thoroughly i gave it up?? now youre the one being silly...
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#5
11-28-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: in over my head
"Obviously, this is silly. Everybody wonders what to do when they're in this situation, and few 1/2 players have "developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this". "
I've probably spent more time scenario-playing/pokerstoving Ax HU OOP than any other situation in limit holdem. The answer depends on the aggressive/passive nature of the opponent, his range, etc., so you are always thinking about the right play in the moment, but that isn't the same thing as not having a plan.
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#6
11-28-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: in over my head
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Everybody wonders what to do when they're in this situation, and few 1/2 players have "developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this". [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I have to agree here. I just pick one of the three actions with semi randomness in this spot. If I had to think about my frequency, I'm not sure I could come up with it offhand. [ QUOTE ] also if youre playing 1-2 you should ideally have read a bunch of books that address this sort of issue (the 2+2 ones are the best) [/ QUOTE ] What do the 2+2 books say about this spot? I'm genuinely curious, as I haven't read any of them in a while.
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#7
11-28-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: in over my head
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[ QUOTE ] Everybody wonders what to do when they're in this situation, and few 1/2 players have "developed a strong plan with significant reasoning behind it as to how and why you would play a hand like this". [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I have to agree here. I just pick one of the three actions with semi randomness in this spot. If I had to think about my frequency, I'm not sure I could come up with it offhand. [ QUOTE ] also if youre playing 1-2 you should ideally have read a bunch of books that address this sort of issue (the 2+2 ones are the best) [/ QUOTE ] What do the 2+2 books say about this spot? I'm genuinely curious, as I haven't read any of them in a while. [/ QUOTE ] I can't remember anything about it in Stox's book. As a side note I specifically remember Harman advocating 3betting A7o pre in this spot in her chapter of super system2.
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