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Old 07-30-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Schneids Video: Bluff and Loose Turn Call?

30/60 Stars (Schneids Video 2, ~2:45)

BTN raises, Schneids calls BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Schneids c/r, guy calls. How often do you make this bluff on this kind of board?

Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Schneids bets, guy raises, Schneids calls

This call confused me a bit. Even with implied odds, we don't have enough for our gutshot. Our pair outs might be good sometimes, but if we are calling down when we hit them we have to factor in reverse-implied odds, so.....

I did the math and, assuming that we average 1.5 bets profit when we hit our gutshot on the river, and assuming that we plan to cd on a river J or 9, our J/9 outs need to be good about 20% of the time to break even.

20% seems somewhat reasonable, but it is certainly close and the call might be losing.

So... are there strong meta-game reasons for making a call like this? Other considerations?


J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

River goes check, check, but I assume Schneids is calling a bet here?
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