10/20 QQ overpair w/side pot

HEK · #1 03-24-2006, 04:16 PM

BB is a total and complete donk. His range is any 2 big cards, any pair. UTG is also terrible. He's like 50/10 and does this miniraise thing with just about everything and anything. I don't know what to make of his preflop cold call though. He did call pretty quick. Couple things first:

1. Does anybody reopen the betting preflop?
2. Who raises the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($845.79)
SB ($2873.56)
BB ($350)
UTG ($3460.03)
Hero ($6378)
CO ($2020)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $40, Hero raises to $200, 3 folds, BB raises to $350 (All-In), UTG calls $310, Hero calls $150.

Flop: ($1060) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $200, Hero calls $200.

Turn: ($1460) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $250, Hero calls $250.

River: ($1960) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG bets $85

How much?

ggbman · #2 03-24-2006, 04:28 PM

475 is good.

dachord · #3 03-24-2006, 06:13 PM

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475 is good.

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Please explain.

wdcbooks · #4 03-24-2006, 06:45 PM

475 seems far to small. I can't imagine that you would be behind here, and the pot has nearly 2k by my reckoning. The $85 looks like a fairly pitiful blocking bet, but you have to hope your opponent has enough of a hand to stay with you. I would make it $1k.

I don't think the possibility that you are behind here is worth considering.

HEK · #5 03-24-2006, 08:20 PM

I am 90+% certain that I am ahead.

edge · #6 03-24-2006, 08:52 PM

I can see an argument for making it 1200 TO GO (SEMANTICS; I MEAN 1200 TOTAL) preflop against these guys. On the river, I like an even 1000. If he pushes, call and bust his stupidly-played set.

IRV · #7 03-24-2006, 10:10 PM

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If he pushes, call and bust his stupidly-played set.

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noone with half a brain is pushing a set on this board.

edge · #8 03-24-2006, 10:15 PM

Why not? Who do you expect has a 4 or a flush given the preflop action? Anyway, there is also this:

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UTG is also terrible. He's like 50/10 and does this miniraise thing with just about everything and anything.

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Rootabager · #9 03-25-2006, 02:59 AM

face him

HEK · #10 03-25-2006, 03:15 AM

I made it 1200 and he instafolded. Other guy had AK