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Old 11-26-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

Villain here is bigdkeene, running like 45/2 over enough hands. No other reads, except he's well terrible. I've got a lot of input for this hand obv, but I'll leave it open-ended for now to generate better discussion.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $519.50
MP: $194
Hero (CO): $208.15
BTN: $219
SB: $54.95
BB: $65.40

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $2, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($23) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.50</font>, UTG calls $17.50

Turn: ($58) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40</font>, UTG calls $20

River: ($138) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $75</font>, Hero calls $75
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

call the turn, i prefer a min-raise on a more drawy board.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

first thought was that the turn raise seems kinda silly... second was that the 3 on the river didnt change anything and if you were raising the turn for value then you might as well go for the kill on the river.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

What do you put him on that you beat when he donks the turn and river?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

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first thought was that the turn raise seems kinda silly... second was that the 3 on the river didnt change anything and if you were raising the turn for value then you might as well go for the kill on the river.

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Unless he thinks that villain will call with straight draws and 7s on the turn and won't on the river, which I think is the case.

IDK if it's immaterial or not, but as well as getting value the turn minraise kinda puts you 'in control' of the hand again.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:33 AM
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What do you put him on that you beat when he donks the turn and river?

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7s and busted straights enough of the time to make the call +EV?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:34 AM
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first thought was that the turn raise seems kinda silly... second was that the 3 on the river didnt change anything and if you were raising the turn for value then you might as well go for the kill on the river.

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Unless he thinks that villain will call with straight draws and 7s on the turn and won't on the river, which I think is the case.

IDK if it's immaterial or not, but as well as getting value the turn minraise kinda puts you 'in control' of the hand again.

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Exactly my thoughts. I was planning on checking behind all rivers on the turn.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

In addition, I think the turn raise keeps him honest; I'm repping a monster imo.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

this is a really dry board and the only draws besides gs have 8s in them, you have 2 of them
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - Strangeish line against clown

US this kind of clown will continue with all gutshots especially JT which has overs too.

i like your turn logic but i think it also follows from that same logic that a bigger raise is better
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