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Old 07-28-2007, 08:47 AM
Janabis Janabis is offline
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Default NL600 - KK in deep water

Villain is nitty 17.1 / 12.2 / 2.88 but I've seen him open raise pocket pairs like 44. He has folded to a squeeze from me in the recent past. We're like 170bb deep here. I wanted him to check behind me on the turn for pot control with a hand like QQ or JJ so I could value bet a safe river. Do you get away here or are you sticking in your remaining $800?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $567.00
Hero (BB): $1,084.12
UTG: $570.00
CO: $1,050.60
BTN: $986.47

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $21.00</font>, BTN calls $21.00, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.00</font>, CO calls $59.00, BTN calls $59.00

Flop: ($243) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $180.00</font>, CO calls $180.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($603) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $330.00</font>, Hero...
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:14 AM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

Chuck that chit in the muck, or lead the turn like a man...
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

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Chuck that chit in the muck, or lead the turn like a man...

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thats the tricky part, you cant bet/fold here.
i really dunno what id do in this spot, tho.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

There are very few Ts in his range, and he could be protecting/v-betting his JJ/QQ against your possible AK/lower PP.

Even with a really tight range we're not in too bad shape.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,100 games 0.005 secs 220,000 games/sec

Board: Th 2s 6h Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.091% 49.09% 02.00% 540 22.00 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 48.909% 46.91% 02.00% 516 22.00 { JJ+, 66, 22 }


But one way to make sure he'll fold the hands you beat would be a CR. Lead turn or call and push any river.
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

so you assume villain bets JJ/QQ here? im not so sure about that.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:13 AM
Jojje_2k Jojje_2k is offline
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

I just bet 400 and call. Is that bad?
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

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I just bet 400 and call. Is that bad?

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i do this or c/r. not folding when a T pairs wtf.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:07 AM
Janabis Janabis is offline
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

I don't really think a nitty player will normally play JJ or QQ this way, although it's possible. His line seems more consistent with hands like AA, KK, TT or a full house.
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

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Chuck that chit in the muck, or lead the turn like a man...

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this is really bad advice...

btw, i can't see this guy having a 10
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: NL600 - KK in deep water

so, consensus is we go broke w/ KK on this board, right?
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