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Old 11-30-2007, 04:44 AM
NFuego20 NFuego20 is offline
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

Narena is the button, UTG+1 is a muppet with a vpip > 60. What's his range here? Who would play this differently?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $207.90
UTG+2: $182.10
MP1: $220
MP2: $114.25
CO: $125.35
BTN: $209.85
SB: $399.55
Hero (BB): $151
UTG: $191

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2, 4 folds, BTN calls $2, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls $6, BTN calls $6

Flop: ($25) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG+1 calls $16, BTN calls $16

Turn: ($73) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $20</font>, BTN calls $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($133) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $20</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $80</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls $60
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call

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Come on now!

Limping on the button with TT!?

And then calling on that flop!?
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call

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Come on now!

Limping on the button with TT!?

And then calling on that flop!?

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well you do seem to overlimp a lot, even when the first limper is someone you should want to isolate

vs a 60VPIP limper, I can't think of anything that makes more sense to overlimp vs Isolate
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

Yes. You outplayed them. LOL

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hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call

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Come on now!

Limping on the button with TT!?

And then calling on that flop!?

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Old 11-30-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call

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Come on now!

Limping on the button with TT!?

And then calling on that flop!?

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well you do seem to overlimp a lot, even when the first limper is someone you should want to isolate

vs a 60VPIP limper, I can't think of anything that makes more sense to overlimp vs Isolate

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How is that massive sample of half a dozen limped showdown hands you have on me?

If I limp pre it's generally because it's the most effective play at those tables.

I'm not sure that your second sentence makes sense either. I'm sure you're not advocating a limp with TT here but that how it reads to me.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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Narena is the button, UTG+1 is a muppet with a vpip &gt; 60. What's his range here? Who would play this differently?

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I'd raise to $10 - $12 pre otherwise it's most likely you'll be playing your hand vs 2 players OOP at a cheap price for them.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

Once again, players like Narena are profitable largely because of a huge advantage in postflop play over the average player. As somebody who limps even more often than he does, and at a 3ptbb/100 profit, I just have to point out that there are many effective players who play vastly different styles of poker. Seeing cheap flops when possible against calling station donks and waiting for the right time to strike can be extremely profitable just as a more aggro game can be in different ways. The higher the stakes and the deeper the stacks, this can obviously change but I see no reason to bash a good thinking player's tendency to limp just because you don't play that way.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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hm... UTG+1 has AJ, BTN TT you should call

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LMAO. R U serious?!. narena has 22 or 77. prolly 22. so what did utg+1 have? KJ/AJ?
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: Any Full Tilt regulars on here? NL 200 and NL 100

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Narena is the button, UTG+1 is a muppet with a vpip &gt; 60. What's his range here? Who would play this differently?

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I'd raise to $10 - $12 pre otherwise it's most likely you'll be playing your hand vs 2 players OOP at a cheap price for them.

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ya 12 bux pre
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