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Old 10-23-2007, 10:53 PM
anuj anuj is offline
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Default FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

$69+6, 25K guarantee, 460 something started, 46 left, 45 pay, the average is about 25K or something.

I made a resteal about 5 hands ago against one of the table big stacks, and pretty lifeless for about 2 orbits before that.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t800/t1600
(Ante: t200)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t19126
UTG+1: t38034
MP1: t34267
MP2: t10666
CO: t27530
Button: t38011
SB: t13122
Hero: t22065

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t4000</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ...?</font>

Should I shove it in? I don't care if I cash, I want to win.

Hypothetical Question:
Same situation, but you're on the button?
What if there are 55 players left, you're in SB/BB, what do you do?
What if there are 55 players left, and you're on CO/button?
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

Shove because you get a TON of folds especially when the guy has to call off most of his stack.

I'm basically shoving in every example you gave.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

agreed this looks so perfect for a shove.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

Yea, this was probably just a poorly disguised beat-post.

I insta-pushed, and he insta-called with AQo, I flopped a Jack and a FD for a decent sweat.


How about on a note about timing and tells, do you insta-push this or do you think a few moments and push?
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

In these tourneys esp late when people seemed to be more pumped up Im not so sure Timing tells matter so much.

Last night in the $3 rebuy blinds were 1500/300 , CO pushed for 50k , I tanked it and pushed for 180K with KK from SB and BB INSTA called with AJ

As for your hand nice push but cant fault viallain callin with AQ
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:42 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

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I made a resteal about 5 hands ago against one of the table big stacks, and pretty lifeless for about 2 orbits before that.


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No one else thinks this is relevant? Also, what is this a value bet, or a re-steal, or what? Although I think we have good FE on the bubble, KJ does pretty bad against his calling range.

Not saying I don't push, but not sure it's as simple as all that.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

When I get hands like these in the blinds nowadays, I beg for someone in late position to raise so I can just shove. Also, shoving on the immediate bubble makes your hand look extra strong.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

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When I get hands like these in the blinds nowadays, I beg for someone in late position to raise so I can just shove. Also, shoving on the immediate bubble makes your hand look extra strong.

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Having KcJc in this spot (or Q10o for that matter) is like a minfist pump when LP raises. Jeez - what's going to happen to poker in a year when these thoughts are becoming more prevalent?


Barry
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

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When I get hands like these in the blinds nowadays, I beg for someone in late position to raise so I can just shove. Also, shoving on the immediate bubble makes your hand look extra strong.

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Having KcJc in this spot (or Q10o for that matter) is like a minfist pump when LP raises. Jeez - what's going to happen to poker in a year when these thoughts are becoming more prevalent?


Barry

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I have faith that there will always be an abundance of stupid people.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:16 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: FTP $75, $25K, BB Resteal on Bubble??

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When I get hands like these in the blinds nowadays, I beg for someone in late position to raise so I can just shove. Also, shoving on the immediate bubble makes your hand look extra strong.

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Having KcJc in this spot (or Q10o for that matter) is like a minfist pump when LP raises. Jeez - what's going to happen to poker in a year when these thoughts are becoming more prevalent?


Barry

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I have faith that there will always be an abundance of stupid people.

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I sure hope so. In fact, lets lock down 2+2. You know... just for a few years...
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