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05-09-2007, 04:33 AM
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Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
Live 15/30...
Reads Villain 1 (co) crazy maniac player, no method to his madness. Basically retarded preflop will raise almost any two cards any position no matter the circumstances..In the many many times i have played with him I can't remember him folding preflop like ever. Postlop he will be very aggressive with any pair or any strong draw, however, with weaker draws he will just call all the way to the river and often he will just fire at any river, no matter the circumstances if he has missed his draw. Also, if he has overs to the board he will try and chase to make a pair. Like I said just an all around awful player, no real reasoning or method behind his play and who knows about his thought process. He views me as really aggressive and thinks Im always out to get him, since Im constantly picking on him and playing pots with him every time we play. Villain 2 (bb) A pretty decent younger player who likely views me as very aggressive. He has gotten out of line against me a few times in some button vs blind battles this session. Anyways onto the hand... preflop folds to CO who opens, I 3bet A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] next in, BB caps, CO calls both, I call. Flop 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB bets, CO raises, I 3bet, bb caps, CO calls, I call Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] BB bets, CO raises, I 3bet, BB calls, CO calls River 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB bets, CO raises, I?? Comments on all streets are appreciated, sorry if this is standard... 
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#2
05-09-2007, 05:51 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
I think everything up to the river is standard.
Fold the river. The key to this hand is the Ac. You have it. They don't. Never mind CO. What hands of BB are you beating that do not contain the Ac? AdKc? Is he really that out of line? I think if we don't have the Ac we can start thinking about getting to showdown because it then puts AcXc in BBs range. Without that in his hand range, I can't come up with anything you beat. It sucks because the pot is humongous, but I am folding.
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#3
05-09-2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
Have you seen this guy bluff raise the river? I think you are cooked, but the pot so large that you need to call in case he spazzed out or misread his hand or something.
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#4
05-09-2007, 08:31 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
I Guess CO could have 77? I don't understand why he'd call the turn 3 and then raise the river with it. Oh, right. He has quads. Quads are rare, though, and I'm confused and like my hand. I'm calling here, hating it lots I think.
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#6
05-09-2007, 10:11 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
[ QUOTE ]
I Guess CO could have 77? I don't understand why he'd call the turn 3 and then raise the river with it. Oh, right. He has quads. Quads are rare, though, and I'm confused and like my hand. I'm calling here, hating it lots I think. [/ QUOTE ] CO's most likely sane hand is A5/75/J5. the hand that doesn't make any sense whatsoever is BB. I mean there's no way he has a 5 in his hand, and the board pairing could not have helped his hand in any other way. I would never smooth call the turn 3bet and then lead this river. his hand sort of makes sense as AK up until the river bet. not sure what I'd do but fold seems fine. you very well may have a 3bet from BB in your future.
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#7
05-09-2007, 10:16 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
anyone else think 3bet>call
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#9
05-09-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
who has AK? with the reads it may fold out a better hand from CO and we should have BB beat more often than we would like to think.
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#10
05-09-2007, 10:34 AM
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Re: Live 15/30 - Multiway 2pair + fd, possibly standard....
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who has AK? with the reads it may fold out a better hand from CO and we should have BB beat more often than we would like to think. [/ QUOTE ] What better hand is folding ? I'm confused.
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