HUNL SNG first hand, thin flop call against donkish dude? And another

[PokerAmateur4]

All I know is he plays small games normally and this is like 10x his normal stakes and he's a slight loser at his small games.

Thoughts on these 2 hands?

The first one is not standard flop decision I don't think, but I figure it's not too bad of a loser, and I'd like the information if I can get it cheap.

Cheers

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, Hero checks.

Flop: (t40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t20</font>, Hero calls t20.

Turn: (t80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t40</font>, Hero calls t40.

River: (t160) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks...

Hand 2 with same opponent:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1220)
Hero (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, Hero checks.

Flop: (t40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t40) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t30</font>, Button...

Final Pot: t100

[Conspiracy]

Hand 1: I check and call a small bet (~1/2 pot) on the river.

Hand 2: I usually lead the flop in a limped pot with a gutshot. It's too strong to c/f but too weak to c/c. I don't know whether I like the riverbet or not. I mean, you have absolutely no showdownvalue so betting is genereally fine. I just feel that you will be looked up by so many hands I really don't no if it's profitable. If you frequently take this line with 5x, Qx, 8x I like it a bit more b/c you have to balance those thin (Qx isn't thin but whatever) valuebets.

[dboy23]

yeah hand 1 i like a c/c small bet. Hand 2 I bet flop as well.

[hra146]

Hand 1 I dont even call 80 (1/2 pot), a losing player at small stakes wont ever valuebet a worse 8 and they usually dont bluff 1/2 pot river either.



happy bday dboy

[Conspiracy]

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Hand 1 I dont even call 80 (1/2 pot), a losing player at small stakes wont ever valuebet a worse 8 and they usually dont bluff 1/2 pot river either.


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Probably right. I tend to call down too light sometimes.

[hra146]

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Hand 1 I dont even call 80 (1/2 pot), a losing player at small stakes wont ever valuebet a worse 8 and they usually dont bluff 1/2 pot river either.


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Probably right. I tend to call down too light sometimes.

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Not saying its superbad or anything. Vs. lots of guys I give it a call here for 80, but how OP suspects villains game to be I dont think its very profitable.

[xSCWx]

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Hand 1 I dont even call 80 (1/2 pot), a losing player at small stakes wont ever valuebet a worse 8 and they usually dont bluff 1/2 pot river either.



happy bday dboy

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I see losing players at $22-$230 show up here with like J3o half the time.

[dboy23]

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Hand 1 I dont even call 80 (1/2 pot), a losing player at small stakes wont ever valuebet a worse 8 and they usually dont bluff 1/2 pot river either.



happy bday dboy

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oh yeah, on hand 1 i usually lead flop.

oh and ty hra.