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Old 10-31-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

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One of the revelations of HSP this year is how poor Phil (and the other top pros) is at calculating hand odds. I guess getting insurance against bad beats is yet another of many ways that he "dodges bullets," in his mind.

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Didnt he mess up the K9 vs K7 hand? He gave Eli 8 outs, 9s and Js? But since Eli has a 9 there were only 7. He was trying to give 10% juice and ended up giving an extra 12.5%. I bet BA realized and didnt correct him.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

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i think he takes insurance because he is unable to deal with bad beats and he knows it. He would loose way nore if he would tilt.

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elementary comment but maybe not?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

he's just a moron.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

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One of the revelations of HSP this year is how poor Phil (and the other top pros) is at calculating hand odds. I guess getting insurance against bad beats is yet another of many ways that he "dodges bullets," in his mind.

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Didnt he mess up the K9 vs K7 hand? He gave Eli 8 outs, 9s and Js? But since Eli has a 9 there were only 7. He was trying to give 10% juice and ended up giving an extra 12.5%. I bet BA realized and didnt correct him.

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Phil said it was 36 wins and 8 losses but since the chop outs didn't count it was actually 30 wins 8 losses which is 3.75:1 which he played off as 4.5:1 so him taking 4:1 was +EV deal.
The only problem is it wasn't actually 36 wins 8 losses because eli only had 7 outs so it was 37-7 and if you take the 6 chop outs out it was 31-7 which is 4.42:1 so phil actually did lose on this but if he could count outs he would have been +EV in this.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

why doesn't UB have an option to pause the game & request insurance from UB, other players at the table, phil ivey...
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

he said he sold part of his action to someone else in HSP (he prob does this a lot).. so hes prob just playing safe trying lock up wins..
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

lol atleast hes not mucking the winning hand
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:52 PM
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I'm guessing it has to do w/ the fact of how big the game is and wanting to hold onto the money more than maximize his EV since he will probably never reach a long run in 300/600nl.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

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lol atleast hes not mucking the chopping hand

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FYP?
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Hellmuth\'s insurance ideology

He hates money.
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