Play a hand with me (NLTRN)

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[daveT]

Jay, you never actually presented the 12 point rule, you only mentioned it and offered to send it to certain people via pm.

There is no good reason to fold this hand. The K6 is different here, because 8 is stronger than 6, and this hand can create draws. I voted call, although I can see push. But there is no way I am folding this. We are practically guaranteed our odds at this point.

[Dromar]

I'm really apprehensive about calling this, based on stack size to blind ratio we've got. I think it's push or fold here, and IMO a close decision either way. I would lean toward a push though because of our percieved image. We've basically been folding machines the whole game (or at least very much so recently), and we've never 3-bet this guy as of yet. If he's paying attention, he's got to respect a push, and he'll fold a huge piece of his range here, especially considering he's been raising quite a bit. I'm voting push.

And yes, we've been card dead for the last 10 or so hands.

edit: and now I'm surprised to see that I'm the only one that voted push. Between calling and folding, I'd lean a bit toward folding. There aren't many ways we can play this well postflop after calling. IMO the obvious best way is to donk almost every flop. But I think we'd be easy to take advantage of if we did that.

Tough situation.

edit2: I'll move this hand along later tonight or tomorrow morning.

[Dromar]

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Jay, you never actually presented the 12 point rule, you only mentioned it and offered to send it to certain people via pm.

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Jay, this might be a good topic to start a thread on, if you feel so inclined. I'd be interested in reading it, and I'm sure many others would be as well.