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Old 10-24-2007, 11:14 PM
Sean Fraley Sean Fraley is offline
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Default 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

Villain is 55/33/(2.2/0.5/1.25) and went to showdown 40% so far. Button is 78/31 preflop and these two have been trying to out-aggro each other preflop. I've not really had a chance to do anything of note at this table yet.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $198.40
MP: $187.95
CO: $117.15
BTN: $65.20
SB: $16
Hero (BB): $120.25

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $8, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($27.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($27.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $80</font>, BTN folds, <font color="blue">Hero </font> ???

I was trying for a check-raise on the flop and that didn't work. Villain is likely to have called with something marginal due to the way things have been going between him and the guy on the button. Is this worth getting it all-in with TPTK here, or should I give it up here?
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

Calling preflop is really, really bad.
Both villains are ultra LAG, so basically you sacrafice a ton of your equity by just calling PF, because on flops that you all miss, you WILL be bluffed off the best hand. You have to have to have to 4bomb preflop, I would probably just shove personally.

As played I would call and c/c any river. Let him keep betting, he's good at it.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

If you were going to c/r flop, you shouldn't have any qualms calling this raise on the turn IMO. As played I like calling and c/c river, as hotbacon said.

And, I also like bumping it up again preflop.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:43 AM
CITIZEN_114 CITIZEN_114 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

I agree about raising preflop, call is bad imo.

as played, I think you have to shove against this villain.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

Against described villain i get it in pretty confidently, calling and c/c might be a good line if we were deeper, but after we call this we have 30 left i think and its doubtful villain is gonna bother betting 30 into like 200 as a bluff. He has a worse k, same hand, or an over-aggro draw here a lot IMO (obv we r beat sometimes also though).
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

Call is fine preflop since I doubt either of these geniuses is folding a mid-pair, and postflop gets really easy: if you whiff, you are done, and if you hit, you are felting (in most cases).

The turn as played? Now is the time on Sprockets when we felt.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

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Call is fine preflop since I doubt either of these geniuses is folding a mid-pair, and postflop gets really easy: if you whiff, you are done, and if you hit, you are felting (in most cases).

The turn as played? Now is the time on Sprockets when we felt.

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Why felt postflop if no preflop 4b? Villains will fold a mid PP when the king shows up, and u just donate to their sets.
I would 4b pre, and as played, I would lead the flop.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: 100NL: AK TPTK vs loose player.

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Call is fine preflop since I doubt either of these geniuses is folding a mid-pair, and postflop gets really easy: if you whiff, you are done, and if you hit, you are felting (in most cases).

The turn as played? Now is the time on Sprockets when we felt.

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Why felt postflop if no preflop 4b? Villains will fold a mid PP when the king shows up, and u just donate to their sets.
I would 4b pre, and as played, I would lead the flop.

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1.) It's already 3-bet ffs.
2.) They are aggrotards.
3.) Obv. don't lead the flop no matter what.
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