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Old 11-21-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $247.98
BB: $50.78
UTG: $39.50
CO: $51.81
Hero (BTN): $86.11

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, CO calls $5

Turn: ($21.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($21.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $20</font>, Hero folds

Results: $21.75 Pot
CO mucked and WON $40.67 (+$30.17 NET)

villain is meowchow 2p2 24/12/2 TAG who may or may not know who I am - I am playing TAG.

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Old 11-21-2007, 02:32 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

What is his c-bet% ? If its over 80 I do this often. However, I am firing that turn also, but Im a hyper aggro monkey sometimes. You have to figure that the ace is definitely a scare card to him often enough to justify betting it. Worse that happens is he raises you and then I gamble getting odds on my gs and flush draw.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

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villain is meowchow 2p2 24/12/2 TAG


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Sorry for the hijacking but what exactly does "meowchow" mean. I keep hearing it tossed around this forum but haven't been around long enough to pick up on the context.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

I agree with Profish, the turn is a good card to bet out on. It gives you so many more outs.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

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Sorry for the hijacking but what exactly does "meowchow" mean. I keep hearing it tossed around this forum but haven't been around long enough to pick up on the context.

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It just means a player that is boring, unimaginative. Someone who plays very straightforward. At least, that's what I take it to mean.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

thing is if I call and fire the turn - or as played fire the turn and get raised and have to call or w/e and miss I am back to 100bb.

There is a deep stacked fish at the table and playing the hand this way passively means I lose the least when I don't hit and then still have a 150bb stack to go fish shooting with.

I think villain fires a whiffed draw here a chunk of the time - tho I'd guess Axss is some of those "missed" draws.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:37 PM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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if you fire the turn, you are repping AsXs or a 3. Its very strong imo. He will have to fold a queen everytime. The only way he can continue is if he has one of those hands that you are representing. If he calls, you still have 9 outs. Had you bet the turn and he called, you could have checked behind on the river J, which I think will be good here quite a bit.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

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The only way he can continue is if he has one of those hands that you are representing.[Axss 3x]

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Had you bet the turn and he called, you could have checked behind on the river J, which I think will be good here quite a bit.

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does not compute.

If he calls with Axss or a 3 - my rivered J is no good.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:05 PM
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thing is if I call and fire the turn - or as played fire the turn and get raised and have to call or w/e and miss I am back to 100bb.

There is a deep stacked fish at the table and playing the hand this way passively means I lose the least when I don't hit and then still have a 150bb stack to go fish shooting with.

I think villain fires a whiffed draw here a chunk of the time - tho I'd guess Axss is some of those "missed" draws.

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If that's so important, stop getting tricky wit da tag!

As played I think I agree with Traz, Hail etc that there is no unequivocally best play on any street
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Old 11-23-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: KJs vs LP mcTAG opener

KJs is a valueraise against my CO opening with a tag OTB.
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