AJo UTG

[Soulman]

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I mean that when someone raises bigger than 3x from EP, I usually put them on 88-QQ, AJ+, hands they don't really want to play due to being scared of postflop play/awkward stack/etc. Which is correct a surprising amount of the time.

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so you would call with a worse hand for more chips in hope to outdraw?

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Eh no. It just means a raise like this might make it easier to put you on exactly the type of hand you have. Which is obviously bad.

[auc hincloss]

88-QQ AJ+ is still quite a large range. I understand your thought process with this but surely raising only 2.5x bb creates a wider range of calling hands.

[Soulman]

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88-QQ AJ+ is still quite a large range. I understand your thought process with this but surely raising only 2.5x bb creates a wider range of calling hands.

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There's a reason most people here raise 2.5x instead of 3.5x. Yes, you get called by a slightly wider range, but not enough that raising 3.5x is better. There's not much to be added for discussion anymore here now I think, lol.

[baltostar]

M = 10500/700 = 15

M if you limp = 10100/700 = 14.5

M if you raise 3.5x = 9100 / 700 = 13

pot if limp and sb completes = 1300 / 700 = 2.15 M

pot if limp and get 1 non-blind caller + sb completes = 1700 / 700 = 2.5 M

pot if raise 3.5x and get bb call = 3000 / 7 = 4.15 M

pot if raise 3.5x and get 1 non-blind call = 3500 / 700 = 5 M

pot if raise 3.5x and get 1 non-blind call + bb = 4500 / 7 = 6.5 M

Is it worth it to play this hand if your raise is called? I think not. AJo is very tricky. There are 2 Ax above you. You have next to no chance of hitting a flush draw. You can only hit a single-ended straight draw.

The risk here is a very good chance of getting drawn into OOP post-flop play in a pot which is excessively large for AJo. You'll be playing for a pot which is 1/3 or more of your remaining M, and that's too much for AJo.

You could limp/fold and if you only get callers and hit flop your expected payoff will be reasonably in line with you outlay.

If you don't like limp/fold, then just fold this.

[djk123]

people are making this way too complicated. just make ur standard raise

[ASPoker8]

no, djk, limp like baltosar says!

[adanthar]

meh, I'd be happier with raising if they had real antes. as it stands, I'd just fold it.