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Old 10-10-2007, 04:10 PM
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I play the 100k on mansion quite a lot, and IMO very few of them are thinking players, and even fewer 2p2. if the relative stacks are ~5k i'd be open raisning stronger than 1k. probably 1.5k. if short stack is pushing his range will probably be quite wide and he's not in the best position to be doing that this hand, unless he has a monster. you can fold to a shove from another player and still remain CL.

Before it does become a crap shoot you want to be accumulating chips. AJ doesn't play too well multi way, so raising strong here i feel would be your best option. you have the HH?

also cant find a hand converter for Mansion...

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I haven't played at Mansion much lately, but do people really fold that much more to a 3.5x raise than a 2.5x raise with 99+,AQ+? If people are tight, it's generally a good idea to raise less since you will have good FE anyway.

I'd personally be inclined to toss this PF, but I don't think raise/folding is necessarily too bad either. There's about a 4% chance that each player will pick up a hand that has you beat, so you're taking it down the requisite 2/3 of the time just about enough.

So I think raise = fold >>>>>> limp. I still think raising 2,5x is better, espec if raising 3,5x commits you to calling a push from more players.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:11 PM
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I pretty much stopped playing AJo. Personally, I think it's horrific to play it UTG 10 handed.

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This isn't Stars or FTP, you have to adjust to different players.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:29 PM
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Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:48 PM
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lol limp jesus christ

I think this is a fold depending on the table.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:53 PM
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fold > raise >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; quit poker > limp


although raise > fold at some tables
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:54 PM
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Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.

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That's a pretty crappy reason. Does Harrington really say that? Then why not raise 4x, 5x, 6x?
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:57 PM
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this is a really easy fold.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:04 PM
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Harrington's logic is that you raise larger so that your decision to call a short stack's all-in move is easier. Guess I see both points of view.

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That's a pretty crappy reason. Does Harrington really say that? Then why not raise 4x, 5x, 6x?

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He does indeed say that. I believe the exact discussion in HOH2 was involving playing 88 in a similar situation.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:06 PM
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fold > raise >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; quit poker > limp


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Comedian, ehh?

W/ this dinky ante, I fold. If antes were like 1/10th bb, I'd open.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:51 PM
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Raising PF is totally fine. Matter of style more than anything IMO.
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