NL200 - Nut flush 275 bb Deep - Standard Shove?

[MysteryV]

Standard shove? Stop n go? Villain is terrible - 38/17/1. Tends to station up and donk when he hits. We've been battling as big stacks. I've been owning.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $198.00
Hero (BB): $551.45
UTG: $203.00
MP: $257.45
CO: $181.15
BTN: $474.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $2.00, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, MP folds, BTN calls $22.00

Flop: ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $70.00</font>, Hero calls $35.00

Turn: ($203) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $75.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero????

[frenchfish]

All considered i would reraise to 180 ,that will allow him more room to makes a mistake imo.

[terp]

i don't think you can really go wrong shoving here...probably the only thing he folds is black queens

[frenchfish]

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i don't think you can really go wrong shoving here...probably the only thing he folds is black queens

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They have history together and have been going at it ,so vilain s range include many more hands than black queens that are likely folding to a shove imho

[spike13]

Shove looks pretty good although I'm guessing you lost him here.
180 sets up a sweet river bet but there are sooo many action killers that could fall...

[Dire]

This is not a good spot for a check raise. You are looking specifically to extract the most from marginal made hands - JQ/JK/AJ/TTh/etc. He's probably not putting in another dollar if he was just making some silly play on the flop, and he's probably not going to get away from QQ+ no matter how we play, although a check raise may even scare him off some of those bigger hands - yet another reason not to checkraise here. Anyhow, point being that check raising almost always scares off all of those marginal hands that should be your extraction goal in this situation.

I strongly prefer just donking the turn for $150. This is targetted exactly at those marginal hands and his stationy tendencies. And the pot will be set perfectly to give him the chance to make a big call on what he sees as a 'safe' river.

[frenchfish]

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This is not a good spot for a check raise. You are looking specifically to extract the most from marginal made hands - JQ/JK/AJ/TTh/etc. He's probably not putting in another dollar if he was just making some silly play on the flop, and he's probably not going to get away from QQ+ no matter how we play, although a check raise may even scare him off some of those bigger hands - yet another reason not to checkraise here. Anyhow, point being that check raising almost always scares off all of those marginal hands that should be your extraction goal in this situation.

I strongly prefer just donking the turn for $150. This is targetted exactly at those marginal hands and his stationy tendencies. And the pot will be set perfectly to give him the chance to make a big call on what he sees as a 'safe' river.

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I like that ,good reasoning.

[shpanko]

I love a stop n go in this spot. let him raise you again.