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Old 11-29-2007, 05:15 PM
ShowUthExit ShowUthExit is offline
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

Is it bad that this never even crosses my mind? I see 82o and auto-click fold... I would pull this with some kind of suited connector, this just seems bad to me.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

agree with pudge even a hand like acerag suited would be much better to do this with. Or if you were a little shallower so you were risking less but had basically the same amount of FE then this would be better, but I dont think this is +EV
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

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agree with pudge even a hand like acerag suited would be much better to do this with. Or if you were a little shallower so you were risking less but had basically the same amount of FE then this would be better, but I dont think this is +EV

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LOL really? Ax has better equity than 28 when called? NO F-ING WAY!!!!



And yes, I think you pass up a ton of value if you don't sometimes utilize spots like these. Without a read on BTN I'm not sure I could do it with 28, suited connectors or broadways might make it a little easier it's tough to shove 28o with absolutely no read.

Still tho, if you have aboslutely no history with BTN and he's a complete random, I don't think a shove is BAD.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

man u suck, all i was saying is that a hand that is often dominated when called like Ax would be a much better choice because it does better vs 88,99,TT especially no need to be a dick about it
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:40 PM
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man u suck, all i was saying is that a hand that is often dominated when called like Ax would be a much better choice because it does better vs 88,99,TT especially no need to be a dick about it

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82 v. AK > Ax v. 99
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

omg I feel like Im taking crazy pills here

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,561,621,248 games 0.031 secs 50,374,878,967 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.199% 32.10% 02.10% 501210660 32853888.00 { A2o }
Hand 1: 65.801% 63.70% 02.10% 994702812 32853888.00 { TT-77, AQs-ATs, KQs, AQo-ATo, KQo }


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,746,550,080 games 0.005 secs 349,310,016,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.731% 27.38% 00.36% 478128180 6209154.00 { 82o }
Hand 1: 72.269% 71.91% 00.36% 1256003592 6209154.00 { TT-77, AQs-ATs, KQs, AQo-ATo, KQo }
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:48 PM
d2themfi d2themfi is offline
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Default Re: Tilt 32k: Squeeze all in with rags?

i honestly dont know what people CC with 20bbs with besides the occasional AA or KK tho, so I have no idea bout thos ranges, but how the hell does saying 82v AK> ax v 99 have anything to do with anything here

I missed the fact at first that they both have 20bbs and u cover, so ur not risking 7k to win the pot but rather 6k, so I think its closer to being a good play, but I still feel like one of them calls pretty often just cause randoms know about squeezing more now and dont like to feel like they are getting bluffed aka they are stations
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