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Old 11-18-2007, 03:22 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

I'm jumping on the fold pre/call now band wagon...
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

Raising pf is somewhat marginal, I like to have a read before I open with QJ. With the bb sitting out, you can make an argument for raising, but you raised too much. 250-300 does the same job as 400. As played, yes you priced yourself in thats why we raise less pf so we can get away from marginal hands.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

Ugh, I just realized there is a typo in my original post. Should have read he shoved for T1500 total, 1100 for me to call.

Sorry, I'm a [censored] retard.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

PF Limp?, outside of that open fold should be the only other play here, 2.5xBB PFRs UTG+1 are -EV...

And yes as played you're priced in for the call.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

LOL @ you getting owned for opening 4bb utg+1

and talking [censored] on me in the other thread when i said to raise smaller to the other dude

you guys kill me

you even admit to not knowing [censored] about tournaments so really why are you getting condescending?

you're beat but you cant open 4x and fold. you've priced yourself in.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

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Raising pf is somewhat marginal, I like to have a read before I open with QJ. With the bb sitting out, you can make an argument for raising, but you raised too much. 250-300 does the same job as 400. As played, yes you priced yourself in thats why we raise less pf so we can get away from marginal hands.

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The marginal part is kind. I hate the raise oop to almost any caller with a hand that is too weak to play early. Other than that I totally agreee with the above.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:35 PM
Pokerfarian Pokerfarian is offline
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

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LOL @ you getting owned for opening 4bb utg+1

and talking [censored] on me in the other thread when i said to raise smaller to the other dude

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Pretty standard stuff to adjust your open raise from ~3x to ~2.5x when your stack is shorter as here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:09 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

raising is bad. risk/reward is bad(as we now see) weve now effectively gotten most of stack in w qjs. you can't fold bc blinds are doubling. give you chips or give you death.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Did I just price myself in ?

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LOL @ you getting owned for opening 4bb utg+1

and talking [censored] on me in the other thread when i said to raise smaller to the other dude

you guys kill me

you even admit to not knowing [censored] about tournaments so really why are you getting condescending?

you're beat but you cant open 4x and fold. you've priced yourself in.

[/ QUOTE ]

jonnyd86 - I may be a MTT noob, but at least I'm not a [censored] fish. Terrible advice FTL anyone?

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