50NL - A8o c/r in 3-bet pot gets raised

Willem · #1 08-22-2007, 11:38 AM

Villain has been fairly active the last rounds and has stats of something like 25/20/4 over a small sample.

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UTG ($50.95)
MP ($67.70)
Button ($59.05)
Hero ($108.45)
BB ($46.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero raises to $6.5, 1 fold, Button calls $4.50.

Flop: ($13.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9, Hero raises to $23, Button raises to $52.55, Hero ...?

What do we do here? Do we have to call? Can we fold?

monkeymaps · #2 08-22-2007, 11:41 AM

why did you c/r this flop? you basicly turned your hand into a bluff.

raise pre then check flop lines are frequently strong hands and villan doesnt seem to care so fold.

traz · #3 08-22-2007, 11:41 AM

You're gonna have to explain what you're doing here with the raises, because this is spewtastic.

Willem · #4 08-22-2007, 11:56 AM

Okay, this may not have been as brilliant an idea as I thought at first.

I posted this hand from villain's perspective.

Nemesis69 · #5 08-22-2007, 12:17 PM

What are u thinking about sir? I like check-raise bluffs, but if u get caught there's nothing u can do except folding.

traz · #6 08-22-2007, 12:18 PM

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Okay, this may not have been as brilliant an idea as I thought at first.

I posted this hand from villain's perspective.

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What are you trying to find out?

xeanatic · #7 08-22-2007, 12:21 PM

I hate 3betting with, squeezing with it can be ok some times.

As played why no c-bet? I'd probably bet river and hope to take it down if called I just give up the hand.

Willem · #8 08-22-2007, 12:21 PM

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What are you trying to find out?

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Obv I bluffed villain here, and he didn't fold, and I was like "wtf, how can he not fold here", so i was curious if his call was standard.

traz · #9 08-22-2007, 12:22 PM

Justifying your play using his retardedness probably isn't best.

While his play was obviously bad, it's possible yours was too

xeanatic · #10 08-22-2007, 12:22 PM

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What are you trying to find out?

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Obv I bluffed villain here, and he didn't fold, and I was like "wtf, how can he not fold here", so i was curious if his call was standard.

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If I had A8 here I wouldn't call the all in