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Old 11-21-2007, 11:02 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Should I just take the free card....

Villain is an unknown. In a blind vs blind battle with such limited fold equity, is it worth firing again? Also, if it is should I be ready to 3 barrel most rivers?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $137.45
UTG: $144.58
CO: $47.50
BTN: $80.30
SB: $119.72

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.50</font>, SB calls $8.50

Turn: ($26) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero????
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:05 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

definitely fire again.

his range is really wide here, he is calling on the flop with alot of stuff.

if called i would probably give up if i miss cos he is unknown
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

The K is a great card to bluff, if you are going to fire the turn it is the second best card to bluff on. However, your hand has showdown value and getting c/r'd would suck. I don't think you fold a 9, so the reason to bet the K would be to charge a straight draw like JT, which is drawing to 10 outs vs you if he has no hearts. You could also bet to reduce the chance of him bluffing a whiffed flush/straight draw on the river. Against an unknown, betting makes your river decision a lot easier vs a bet, and builds a pot for when you hit, and only really sucks when he check/raises the turn, which he is only doing with a poorly played set or two pair, so I think you should bet the turn, but it is so close it doesn't really matter that much.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $137.45
UTG: $144.58
CO: $47.50
BTN: $80.30
SB: $119.72

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, SB calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($9) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.50</font>, SB calls $8.50

Turn: ($26) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, SB calls $20

River: ($66) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:12 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

Should I bomb that river?
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:15 PM
Ranma4703 Ranma4703 is offline
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

No you should not. I don't like bluffing unknowns, and I hate bluffing when I have show down value. That T is a [censored] card - TJ just made a pair and 67 just made a straight, 9T just made two pair. After he calls your bet on the K hitting, I think you should just try to get to showdown.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

does anyone ever bet like 50 on the turn there? obv calling a shove...
i do every once in a while with sets/AA/huge draws like Hero has, and i dont really see a way to exploit it
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

check river behind
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

You played this hand well.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Should I just take the free card....

i would bet turn and check behind river UI
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