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11-08-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
Thanks D$D, those are exactly the kinds of suggestions I was looking for.
I remember once asking the PPA, as NH rep, for some flyer I could distribute at the proliferation of "charity-poker" card rooms in my state to generate new members. They e-mailed me back that they were working on one. That was 8 months ago. There is clearly a lot of room for this organization to grow. Skallagrim 
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#22
11-08-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
"IMO we are barely on the course of getting a heavily regulated poker industry that will still be illegal in more than 25% of the States"
Is it one of your goals to have in place a federal law, regarding the legality of poker, that supercedes the rights of states to decide for themselves how they want to handle gambling?
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#23
11-08-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks D$D, those are exactly the kinds of suggestions I was looking for. I remember once asking the PPA, as NH rep, for some flyer I could distribute at the proliferation of "charity-poker" card rooms in my state to generate new members. They e-mailed me back that they were working on one. That was 8 months ago. There is clearly a lot of room for this organization to grow. Skallagrim [/ QUOTE ] That's definitely how it was back then. I sent a few emails to PPA back then and got replies like yours, which was very discouraging. The changes since those dark days have clearly been dramatic. It's a huge turnaround, actually. There is obviously more room to grow, and I believe they'll do it.
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#24
11-08-2007, 01:48 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
I remember once asking the PPA, as NH rep, for some flyer I could distribute at the proliferation of "charity-poker" card rooms in my state to generate new members. They e-mailed me back that they were working on one. That was 8 months ago. [/ QUOTE ] Forgive my intrusion, but haven't some said that the poker community needs to do more to proactively help? Why didn't you come up with a flyer and submit to PPA for approval? Add the warning that you'd be distributing the flyer under their name, if they didn't get back to you in a month. ?
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#25
11-08-2007, 01:49 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Thanks D$D, those are exactly the kinds of suggestions I was looking for. I remember once asking the PPA, as NH rep, for some flyer I could distribute at the proliferation of "charity-poker" card rooms in my state to generate new members. They e-mailed me back that they were working on one. That was 8 months ago. There is clearly a lot of room for this organization to grow. Skallagrim [/ QUOTE ] That's definitely how it was back then. I sent a few emails to PPA back then and got replies like yours, which was very discouraging. The changes since those dark days have clearly been dramatic. It's a huge turnaround, actually. There is obviously more room to grow, and I believe they'll do it. [/ QUOTE ] Is this any different than other new/growing lobbying interest organizations?
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#26
11-08-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I remember once asking the PPA, as NH rep, for some flyer I could distribute at the proliferation of "charity-poker" card rooms in my state to generate new members. They e-mailed me back that they were working on one. That was 8 months ago. [/ QUOTE ] Forgive my intrusion, but haven't some said that the poker community needs to do more to proactively help? Why didn't you come up with a flyer and submit to PPA for approval? Add the warning that you'd be distributing the flyer under their name, if they didn't get back to you in a month. ? [/ QUOTE ] My follow up e-mail was a request for authorization to make my own flyer, or to just copy one from the website at my own expense. I never got a response to that one either. So whenever I play there now I just wear my PPA pin, and talk about the PPA between hands. Also, this charity-poker thing is quite a poker-positive development in NH, there is little reason to rock the boat here at the moment. Like, TE, I see this situation slowly improving. What have you done LL? Skallagrim
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#27
11-08-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
Oh, I certainly have no standing at ALL to complain about anyone's efforts. That wasn't where I was going- my apologies if you saw it as an attack of some kind.
Do you think it would be inappropriate for you to create a poster, submit for approval with a deadline, then go ahead and post? I'm not involved in a grass-roots or growing political organization, so I don't know the etiquette of overcoming organizational sloth with personal effort.
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#28
11-08-2007, 02:12 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
"IMO we are barely on the course of getting a heavily regulated poker industry that will still be illegal in more than 25% of the States" Is it one of your goals to have in place a federal law, regarding the legality of poker, that supercedes the rights of states to decide for themselves how they want to handle gambling? [/ QUOTE ] No, personally I think that is an impratical goal. The same is a law that makes poker illegal at the Federal level. That is why to me the need for powerful State Reps is so important. We could win the battle at the Federal level and loose the war in the States. D$D
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#29
11-08-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
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Like, TE, I see this situation slowly improving. [/ QUOTE ] I actually see the situation rapidly improving. I'll send you a PM shortly.
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#30
11-08-2007, 02:18 PM
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Re: The PPA, lets talk numbers vs results.
[ QUOTE ]
Oh, I certainly have no standing at ALL to complain about anyone's efforts. That wasn't where I was going- my apologies if you saw it as an attack of some kind. Do you think it would be inappropriate for you to create a poster, submit for approval with a deadline, then go ahead and post? I'm not involved in a grass-roots or growing political organization, so I don't know the etiquette of overcoming organizational sloth with personal effort. [/ QUOTE ] A willingness to work hard at wothwile efforts and a good spirit is all that is needed to get started. Grassroots is both very complex and exremely easy. The actual steps are simple to the extreme and almost mundane. The complex is getting it going and keeping it running smoothly. So far I do not suggest the "squeeky wheel" apporach, if nothing else I've shown that just isn't working. TE's model in this organization is perhaps the best so far. The easiest is offering yourself up as cannon fodder. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] D$D
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