Potential Political Impact?

[DeadMoneyDad]

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I am posting this for D$D who is having difficulty logging in - it is a cut and paste from an email:


I wish I could delete it from the server but.....


D$D

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I apologize to anyone I offended with the tone of this post.


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Holy crap! I would have laid 50-1 that was a gimmick post.

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Damn I wish I'd thought of that!!

Sorry folks who took a beating on that bet, what you see is what you get warts and all.

D$D

[TheEngineer]

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50 people in KY will be a flop and a failure. We'd have to have 500 or more people marching every single weekend before we'd be noticed at all here. Conversely, 50 in D.C. will be an astounding success.

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50 people in D.C. is a success? I think I can deliver that many in volunteers to help run a little bit bigger event than that in D.C. Sorry that little tidbit was buried in my 688 word post you were to busy to read. You had time to count them? Also in my private message to you was; offers of chips, tables, cards, and experienced operators to run any poker social, custom printed casino quality poker chips at manufacture's cost thanks to Grasshopper's intro, all manner of campaign trash, banners, posters, etc (at or near cost). People from heads of licensed security firms, photographers, bonded drivers; you name it in quality volunteers.

All I've asked about UIGEA events is "what do you need that you don't already have." There hasn’t been one issue of travel expense in this effort! I live here.

50 people trying to pull off a rally is a waste of time anywhere. Those same 50 people calling every PPA member in KY to get their butts to a PPA sponsored or even semi-sponsored event?

Priceless.

50 people one night a week visiting local pub leagues or casinos signing up new members with a laptop an a little IT effort to process new paid members(no cash please)?

Money in the bank.

One semi known pro in a metropolitan market for the price of an over nighter, the ROI is 500+ people at a free PPA poker event with a decent percentage of new dues paying members.

The list of semi-reasonable outreach efforts in terms of building an organization that will cause the anti-gambling forces to crap their pants is endless.

Have a DC centric event and pat yourself on the back and try to build a grassroots advocacy group next year if you want when the anti's are out in force and already organized?

Political suicide IMPO.

The other pro gambling forces can out spend us unless we are the best game in town. There are others out there setting up games and convincing people on-line poker is willing to throw everyone else affected by the UIGEA under the bus. Have you read the articles on their sites? We show some muscle or at least basic grassroots organizational abilities in KY for B&M’s we at the very least get a seat at the table next year.

Just a bull in the china shop's opinion,


D$D

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If you say so.

[DeadMoneyDad]

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50 people in KY will be a flop and a failure. We'd have to have 500 or more people marching every single weekend before we'd be noticed at all here. Conversely, 50 in D.C. will be an astounding success.

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50 people in D.C. is a success? I think I can deliver that many in volunteers to help run a little bit bigger event than that in D.C. Sorry that little tidbit was buried in my 688 word post you were to busy to read. You had time to count them? Also in my private message to you was; offers of chips, tables, cards, and experienced operators to run any poker social, custom printed casino quality poker chips at manufacture's cost thanks to Grasshopper's intro, all manner of campaign trash, banners, posters, etc (at or near cost). People from heads of licensed security firms, photographers, bonded drivers; you name it in quality volunteers.

All I've asked about UIGEA events is "what do you need that you don't already have." There hasn’t been one issue of travel expense in this effort! I live here.

50 people trying to pull off a rally is a waste of time anywhere. Those same 50 people calling every PPA member in KY to get their butts to a PPA sponsored or even semi-sponsored event?

Priceless.

50 people one night a week visiting local pub leagues or casinos signing up new members with a laptop an a little IT effort to process new paid members(no cash please)?

Money in the bank.

One semi known pro in a metropolitan market for the price of an over nighter, the ROI is 500+ people at a free PPA poker event with a decent percentage of new dues paying members.

The list of semi-reasonable outreach efforts in terms of building an organization that will cause the anti-gambling forces to crap their pants is endless.

Have a DC centric event and pat yourself on the back and try to build a grassroots advocacy group next year if you want when the anti's are out in force and already organized?

Political suicide IMPO.

The other pro gambling forces can out spend us unless we are the best game in town. There are others out there setting up games and convincing people on-line poker is willing to throw everyone else affected by the UIGEA under the bus. Have you read the articles on their sites? We show some muscle or at least basic grassroots organizational abilities in KY for B&M’s we at the very least get a seat at the table next year.

Just a bull in the china shop's opinion,


D$D

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If you say so.

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Well it is all I have been trying to say from the begining through my communication breakdown and now. I know it can be done pretty much for the asking.

D$D

[Tuff_Fish]

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At some point we are going to have to have a physical presence.

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Let's start in D.C. and go from there (look forward to meeting you, your wife, Legislurker, and anyone else who can join us).

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I am actually up for both. Mrs Fish has never been to KY either... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

I disagree with D$D that 50 people in DC are wasted. Part of that trip will be to put our pointed heads together and brainstorm further actions. And 50 grassroots folks, as opposed to paid lobbyist types, are not going to go unnoticed.

I agree with D$D that we should try very hard to make a mark in the KY election. The purpose is not to claim that we helped elect Breshear, but to show that we show up and can be counted on to help or oppose candidates that we, A) like, B) dislike. Futhermore, our message is that poker is a skill game and we vehemently oppose restrictions on our right to participate.

I believe that is exactly what the NRA is all about. " We help our friends, and we are poison to those who would trample our rights "

It certainly would be helpful if the PPA could become a similar force. Won't happen overnight, but it can happen. And, I agree, that membership numbers are important. Committed activist members are even more important.


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