***SSNL [CHEESE] DEC***

[ikestoys]

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $112
Hero: $2023.10
Button: $786.10
SB: $759
BB: $687

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $112</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $224</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $448</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1376</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $239</font>.
Uncalled bets: $689 returned to Hero.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Results:
Final pot: $1378
Hero Shows 10d Ks
BB Shows Ac Ah
UTG Shows 6c 6s

Now obv I'm running like a god, the question is is this collusion? The shortstack is a relative unknown, but the other guy is DOE_JAI, who is a rakeback affiliate for about half of absolute and knows just about everyone...

thoughts?

[LT22]

[ QUOTE ]
This line optimizes equity against his range; if an A or K flops, he can c/f.

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well I'm gonna go ahead and assume this guy is a regularish player since he 4bet light a little deepstacked. We should know he's capable of that especially given stacks. When we just call the 4bet OOP and shove, he's instafolding unless he hit a set or has KK/AA (or random 2 pr that he 4b light with).

The shove on the flop was my biggest concern....we're trying to fold out all his weak hands.

[Nielsio]

unlol. Gotta take a break.

[sightless]

[censored] DIE YOU [censored] SCUM
-12 buy in swong

[Shizzle12345]

[ QUOTE ]
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $112
Hero: $2023.10
Button: $786.10
SB: $759
BB: $687

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $112</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $224</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $448</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1376</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $239</font>.
Uncalled bets: $689 returned to Hero.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Results:
Final pot: $1378
Hero Shows 10d Ks
BB Shows Ac Ah
UTG Shows 6c 6s

Now obv I'm running like a god, the question is is this collusion? The shortstack is a relative unknown, but the other guy is DOE_JAI, who is a rakeback affiliate for about half of absolute and knows just about everyone...

thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]
I do know that JAI is fking terrible.

[carnivalhobo]

noodles78... hu4rollz

[pureklas]

My first thought Ikes was that I don't think its collusion just a bad player making a move due to dead money after bb called. looking at it again it seems strange but then Doe Jai sucks so bad that anything he does seems normal enough by him to me. Who was utg?

[Nielsio]

[ QUOTE ]
Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $112
Hero: $2023.10
Button: $786.10
SB: $759
BB: $687

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $112</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $224</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $448</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1376</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $239</font>.
Uncalled bets: $689 returned to Hero.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1378, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $338, Sidepot 1: $1040)


Results:
Final pot: $1378
Hero Shows 10d Ks
BB Shows Ac Ah
UTG Shows 6c 6s

Now obv I'm running like a god, the question is is this collusion? The shortstack is a relative unknown, but the other guy is DOE_JAI, who is a rakeback affiliate for about half of absolute and knows just about everyone...

thoughts?

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I think your isolation move is -EV.

[ikestoys]

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My first thought Ikes was that I don't think its collusion just a bad player making a move due to dead money after bb called. looking at it again it seems strange but then Doe Jai sucks so bad that anything he does seems normal enough by him to me. Who was utg?

[/ QUOTE ]MAESTRODANO

[ikestoys]

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I think your isolation move is -EV.

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ty for your input... its not -ev